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Originally posted by KazetNagorraEducate yourself, please: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148#
Sure it does. It also includes free press, no political prisoners, among other things.
Originally posted by adam warlockI watched the first two and a half minutes. I assume it's about the U.S. supporting various dictators and ousting democratically elected leaders in Latin America, which it has done for many decades. I don't see how that suddenly makes Chavez a good guy, however. Nor do I see how it justifies Chavez hampering free press, locking up political opponents, etc.
Educate yourself, please: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148#
Originally posted by KazetNagorraIf you'd seen it all you'd know the answer to these questions. You will know why he is largely a good figure for a substantial part of the population of Venezuela, and you'll see why those assertions of him hampering free press and locking up political prisoners don't hold up to serious scrutiny.
I don't see how that suddenly makes Chavez a good guy, however. Nor do I see how it justifies Chavez hampering free press, locking up political opponents, etc.
Originally posted by adam warlockWhy don't you start by holding up the OP to serious scrutiny?
If you'd seen it all you'd know the answer to these questions. You will know why he is largely a good figure for a substantial part of the population of Venezuela, and you'll see why those assertions of him hampering free press and locking up political prisoners don't hold up to serious scrutiny.
It is a hour and half and it'll help you dispelling ma ...[text shortened]... . If you want I can link them here too.
http://www.michaelparenti.org/GoodVenezuela.pdf
Originally posted by adam warlockWhat makes you think I support the leaders of Colombia or Honduras?
If you want to see press hampering, political prisoners, civil liberties being cu down and other such things that are the hallmark of democracy you better look at Colombia or Honduras.
You have a much stronger case in those places, but since they aren't reported by the mass media let's just pretend it doesn't happen.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNothing. That's why I didn't say you supported them.What I did say is the bases of your criticism on Chavez would have a lot more to stand on if you targeted those countries.
What makes you think I support the leaders of Colombia or Honduras?
Originally posted by adam warlockMake a thread about Uribe and I will most likely criticize him.
Nothing. That's why I didn't say you supported them.What I did say is the bases of your criticism on Chavez would have a lot more to stand if you target those countries.
There's a big difference.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI'd consider it to be very suspicious if I didn't know more about what happened. The fact is that I do and no1 already linked to something that seems to be very relevant.
Don't you think it's mightily convenient that a politician is locked up as soon as he turns his back on Chavez?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraIt's rather disappointing that you are parroting blatantly false claims.
Don't you think it's mightily convenient that a politician is locked up as soon as he turns his back on Chavez?