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    Female athletes crushed by 'women who were once men'

    How can this be.... ladies?

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/


    You’ve heard the expression, “Boys will be boys.” But what happens when a brawny boy wants to be one of the girls – fiercely competing with females in weightlifting, brutally tackling girls on the football field or even dealing powerful knockout punches to ladies in a mixed martial-arts cage?

    It’s now happening across America and around the world.
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    26 Mar '17 21:34
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Female athletes crushed by 'women who were once men'

    How can this be.... ladies?

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/


    You’ve heard the expression, “Boys will be boys.” But what happens when a brawny boy wants to be one of the girls – fiercely competing with females in weightlifting, brutally tackling g ...[text shortened]... ladies in a mixed martial-arts cage?

    It’s now happening across America and around the world.
    Do away with sexist distinctions and just have one league.

    No W NBA, just the NBA. If a woman is really goid enough she can make a team.
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    26 Mar '17 21:46
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Do away with sexist distinctions and just have one league.

    No W NBA, just the NBA. If a woman is really goid enough she can make a team.
    There you go! Great idea. Same locker rooms too.
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    26 Mar '17 21:58
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    There you go! Great idea. Same locker rooms too.
    Why not?
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/do-transgender-athletes-have-an-unfair-advantage-at-the-olympics/2016/08/05/08169676-5b50-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html?utm_term=.00ebfe4231c4

    "Do transgender athletes have an unfair advantage at the Olympics?"
    --Steven Petrow (8 August 2016)

    "In my mind, I first imagined a young Bruce Jenner, tall and muscular, competing as
    Caitlyn Jenner and snaring all the gold medals in the women’s events. I imagined
    wrong, as it turns out, because I was unaware of the medical science behind the IOC decision."

    "But here’s why we all had it wrong: The first-ever study of transgender athletes showed
    that the hormone therapy that facilitates male-to-female transition does more than just
    suppress testosterone. Published last year in the Journal of Sporting Cultures and
    Identities, the study showed that as testosterone levels approach female norms, trans women
    experience a decrease in muscle mass, bone density and other physical characteristics.

    “Together these changes lead to a loss of speed, strength and endurance — all key
    components of athleticism,” the study’s author, Joanna Harper, wrote in The
    Washington Post. Harper, who is chief medical physicist at Oregon’s Providence
    Portland Medical Center, a trans athlete and a participant in the IOC meeting that
    overhauled the trans guidelines, explained to me that “it’s not the anatomy that matters,
    it’s the hormones.” After a year of hormone therapy, for example, female trans distance
    runners completely lose their speed advantage over cisgender women."

    For further reading:
    _The Sport Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance_ by David Epstein

    David Epstein cites some cases of transgender women runners who maintained about
    the same training schedule as women that they had used when competing as men.
    In every case, however, transgender women ran slower times (typically about 11% )
    than they had as men.

    "Science provides a clear explanation for why, in many sports, trans women don’t
    maintain any athletic advantage. Hormone therapy for trans women typically involves a
    testosterone-blocking drug plus an estrogen supplement. As their testosterone levels
    approach female norms, trans women see a decrease in muscle mass, bone density
    and the proportion of oxygen-carrying red cells in their blood. The estrogen, meanwhile,
    boosts fat storage, especially around the hips. Together, these changes lead to a loss
    of speed, strength and endurance — all key components of athleticism."
    --Dr Joanna Harper (a transgender woman distance runner)
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    27 Mar '17 03:10
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/do-transgender-athletes-have-an-unfair-advantage-at-the-olympics/2016/08/05/08169676-5b50-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html?utm_term=.00ebfe4231c4

    "Do transgender athletes have an unfair advantage at the Olympics?"
    --Steven Petrow (8 August 2016)

    "In my mind, I first imagined a young Bruce Jenner, tal ...[text shortened]... — all key components of athleticism."
    --Dr Joanna Harper (a transgender woman distance runner)
    You can look these up....

    Transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard, who was born a man, won the Australian international women’s competition March 19.

    Transgender cyclist Jillian Bearden, a 36-year-old biological male and Colorado Springs native, won the women’s division of the El Tour de Tucson in four hours and 26 minutes in November 2016.

    California allowed Pat Cordova-Goff, 17, born a male, to join the girls’ softball team at Azusa High School in Azusa in 2014. Goff was already a cheerleader at the school

    High-school runner Nattaphon Wangyot, 18, born a male, participated in the Class 3A girls’ sprints at the Alaska state meet in June 2016 and placed 3rd in the 200-meter dash (27.3 seconds) and 5th in the 100-meter dash (13.36 seconds). Wangyot also competed on girls’ volleyball and basketball teams.


    Mack Beggs, 17, was born a girl and reportedly began identifying as a boy at the age of 3. Though Beggs underwent testosterone treatments for more than a year and had the muscle mass of a teenage boy, Beggs competed and took first place in the University Interscholastic League state girls’ championship on Feb. 25, 2016.

    Transgender MMA fighter Fallon Fox, born a man, gave his female opponent a concussion and broke her eye socket in 2015.

    The woman, Tamikka Brents, suffered a serious eye injury from a damaged orbital bone and needed seven staples after she fought Fox.

    The TKO came at 2:17 during the first round of their match.

    Skater Vanessa Sites, 31, is the first transgender to compete on Team USA in the World Cup of Roller Derby.

    Though Sites has skated in roller derby for at least eight years, he didn’t reveal his transgender identity to the media until recently.

    “I want people to know me for my skating and not what’s between my legs,” Sites told the Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, online newspaper the Times Leader.

    Sites is a member of the Gotham Girls Roller Derby based in New York City.

    “I’m so good at it, so I wanted to be the best,” Sites told the paper.

    Even though Sites was born a biological male, he doesn’t believe he has an unfair advantage when he competes against women.
  7. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    27 Mar '17 04:46
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Why not?
    Becuase it's extremely stupid...

    you 2 should get in the locker room with Trump and leave the mikes turned off please ..
  8. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    27 Mar '17 04:55
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Female athletes crushed by 'women who were once men'

    How can this be.... ladies?

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/


    You’ve heard the expression, “Boys will be boys.” But what happens when a brawny boy wants to be one of the girls – fiercely competing with females in weightlifting, brutally tackling g ...[text shortened]... ladies in a mixed martial-arts cage?

    It’s now happening across America and around the world.
    Men and women are equal in spirit.
    Of course they have differing attributes in general. After all womens bodies are designed for giving birth as well as the other functions that we share.

    You gotta understand that women and men have different roles. Try to get the chick to take out the trash and see how far she gets , lol.
    Seriously though, just look in the mirror and follow your role.
    Example: if the guy or girl looking back at you in the mirror is five foot tall, then they prolly wont be a good basketball player- no matter how good they can shoot.

    Just extremely silly of you guys to think that when we say we want equality you just think physically.
    i'm assuming you are grown men, because whoever posted in those first few exchanges seem to be under 10 years old
  9. Standard membershavixmir
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    27 Mar '17 11:35
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Female athletes crushed by 'women who were once men'

    How can this be.... ladies?

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/


    You’ve heard the expression, “Boys will be boys.” But what happens when a brawny boy wants to be one of the girls – fiercely competing with females in weightlifting, brutally tackling g ...[text shortened]... ladies in a mixed martial-arts cage?

    It’s now happening across America and around the world.
    It's happening all across America?

    Really? Hundreds and hundreds of cross-gender athletes tackling women on football fields?

    I can only hope it's nude recreation.
  10. Standard membershavixmir
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    27 Mar '17 11:38
    Although, and it has nothing to do with equality, your argument and what you're pointing out does raise serious questions about professional sports.
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    27 Mar '17 13:24
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Although, and it has nothing to do with equality, your argument and what you're pointing out does raise serious questions about professional sports.
    Pro sports is a for-profit business enterprise. It is part of the entertainment industry. What are the serious questions?
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    27 Mar '17 14:03
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    It's happening all across America?

    Really? Hundreds and hundreds of cross-gender athletes tackling women on football fields?

    I can only hope it's nude recreation.
    All around the world
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    27 Mar '17 14:34
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Do away with sexist distinctions and just have one league.

    No W NBA, just the NBA. If a woman is really goid enough she can make a team.
    Do you oppose having different weight classes in professional fighting (like boxing) as well? Why?
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    27 Mar '17 15:261 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Do away with sexist distinctions and just have one league.

    No W NBA, just the NBA. If a woman is really goid enough she can make a team.
    Sounds kinda regulatory to me. If a buncha wimmen wanta set up a basketball league, how y'all gonna stoppem?
  15. Zugzwang
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    27 Mar '17 20:11
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    You can look these up....

    Transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard, who was born a man, won the Australian international women’s competition March 19.

    Transgender cyclist Jillian Bearden, a 36-year-old biological male and Colorado Springs native, won the women’s division of the El Tour de Tucson in four hours and 26 minutes in November 2016.

    Cali ...[text shortened]... a biological male, he doesn’t believe he has an unfair advantage when he competes against women.
    I cited a scientific study. Checkbaiter runs around trying to 'cherry pick' anecdotes.
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