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Are we useful idiots?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
Democrats inciting is why these people (organized military infrastructure) are on the streets.
What do they have these people believing?
I keep thinking back to the Good partner after the shooting asking why they were using real bullets. Why would she/he say that?

And nah, this violence isn’t happening in states where the politicians aren’t inciting.
That's your nutty right wing fantasy, not reality.

No Democratic politicians are "inciting violence". Officials like Bovino and Noem are though it looks like Trump is now reining them in.

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@no1marauder said
That's your nutty right wing fantasy, not reality.
I am stating facts that are provable.
That is why you cant refute.

Why would Good say that about the bullets being real?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
I am stating facts that are provable.
That is why you cant refute.

Why would Good say that about the bullets being real?
Guess people aren't used to Federal agents murdering civilians in broad daylight.

ICE and CBP have used non-lethal projectiles against civilians at other demonstrations.https://www.ucc.org/ucc-pastor-shot-by-federal-agents-with-pepper-round-speaks-about-standing-on-the-side-of-love/


@no1marauder said
Guess people aren't used to Federal agents murdering civilians in broad daylight.

ICE and CBP have used non-lethal projectiles against civilians at other demonstrations.https://www.ucc.org/ucc-pastor-shot-by-federal-agents-with-pepper-round-speaks-about-standing-on-the-side-of-love/
All police officers carry lethal weapons.
They do use non-lethal systems for crowd control at times. But they are always armed with lethal weapons.

This Good person was led to think they weren’t.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
All police officers carry lethal weapons.
They do use non-lethal systems for crowd control at times. But they are always armed with lethal weapons.

This Good person was led to think they weren’t.
I think she knew otherwise and you haven't produced anything that would make a reasonable person believe differently. That's assuming she even made such a comment.


@no1marauder said
I think she knew otherwise and you haven't produced anything that would make a reasonable person believe differently. That's assuming she even made such a comment.
"I think she knew otherwise"

I think she was led to think otherwise.

You not knowing she said this tells me you havent reviewed the videos objectively.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
"I think she knew otherwise"

I think she was led to think otherwise.

You not knowing she said this tells me you havent reviewed the videos objectively.
I reviewed the videos of the shooting, not what happened afterwards.

Give a link if you have one.


@Ponderable said
So you don't see the difference between a criminal and an ICE agent. Good to know.
No difference.

Their bosses are both criminals.


@Rajk999 said
You need to be a bit more honest. The lady, Ms Good, was acceleerating from zero, and there is no way you can determine what speed she was going to be when she made contact with the officer.

Germany has about 25 deportations per 100,000 population. The US is about 3 to 4 times that. The reason is that the US has far more illegal border crossings than Germany, which prior ...[text shortened]... meantime, there is going to be upheaval, families broken up and even death. This cannot be avoided.
Such a caring person.

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@KellyJay said
Are we useful idiots?

People have been upset at the deaths of people; is this done only selectively? I ask whether getting upset means we are treating each death equally as bad? Renee Good and Alex Pretti were killed due to the events surrounding the immigration events. The thing is, so were the deaths of Victoria Harwell and Mafalda Thayer; the media outrage didn’t ri ...[text shortened]... led up and stop seeing each other as individuals worthy of our respect, above my emotional response.
You still don't get it.

Those people weren't killed by the Federal government and the killers were charged in court for murder.


@Ponderable said
So you don't see the difference between a criminal and an ICE agent. Good to know.

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@Rajk999 said
You need to be a bit more honest. The lady, Ms Good, was acceleerating from zero, and there is no way you can determine what speed she was going to be when she made contact with the officer.

Germany has about 25 deportations per 100,000 population. The US is about 3 to 4 times that. The reason is that the US has far more illegal border crossings than Germany, which prior ...[text shortened]... meantime, there is going to be upheaval, families broken up and even death. This cannot be avoided.
Germany has fewer illegal immigrants because Germany's borders are wide open to all neighboring countries by law. Kinda like how Kansas' borders are open. You don't see too many illegal immigrants from Nebraska in Kansas.


@Rajk999 said
Where did you get that ICE officers are sworn to do this?
That is a terrifying, excellent point.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
What would you suggest is the legal recourse for helping criminals escape lawful officers?
Arrest, and a trial before a judge. Probably the punishment would be minor.

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