Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe question is who fired first.
The question was not about who fired first, the question is about the propaganda that Hamas has created this situation as parroted by you, the Israeli army and every other American clone.
As Finnegan has pointed out with a patience that puts him forth as a contender for being canonized, there is a direct and demonstrable correlation between meas ...[text shortened]... you and every other right wing Israeli sycophant to produce a shred of evidence to the contrary.
As long as you enable terrorists by supporting them, you are adding to the problem.
Originally posted by Eladaryou mean like giving the Israelis 3 billion dollars a year and supplying them with drones so they can kill people by remote control? Yes I fully agree with you, enabling terrorists is a bad idea, soooo, why do you do it? You did it with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as well as the Nicaraguan Contras and lord knows who else.
The question is who fired first.
As long as you enable terrorists by supporting them, you are adding to the problem.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy not allow them to defend themselves in an area that is very hostile to their very existence?
you mean like giving the Israelis 3 billion dollars a year and supplying them with drones so they can kill people by remote control? Yes I fully agree with you, enabling terrorists is a bad idea, soooo, why do you do it? You did it with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan as well as the Nicaraguan Contras and lord knows where else.
Why did the US give terrorists money and guns? We did it to counter the Russians who are now back in the game.
Originally posted by EladarAnd when have the Israelis very existence ever been threatened, can you provide a shred of evidence for any of your ludicrous claims or will you continue to slobber and drool you way across the Internet. You are the biggest terrorists and the biggest shippers of arms to terrorists.
Why not allow them to defend themselves in an area that is very hostile to their very existence?
Why did the US give terrorists money and guns? We did it to counter the Russians who are now back in the game.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are one sick European Jew hating guy.
And when has the Israelis very existence ever been threatened, can you provide a shred of evidence for any of your ludicrous claims or will you continue to slobber and drool you way across the Internet. You are the biggest terrorists and the biggest shippers of arms to terrorists.
The PA Ambassador to India, Adli Sadeq, wrote in the official PA daily: "They [Israelis] have a common mistake or misconception by which they fool themselves, assuming that Fatah accepts them and recognizes the right of their state to exist, and that it is Hamas alone that loathes them and does not recognize the right of this state to exist. They ignore the fact that this state, based on a fabricated [Zionist] enterprise, never had any shred of a right to exist." (Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, November 26, 2011)
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2679/gingrich-palestinian-authority-pmw
The post that was quoted here has been removedOriginally posted by Duchess64
"I am aware that some of my haters like to vote 'thumbs down' on anything
that I write (perhaps even '1+1=2' )..."
As a footnote to the progression of this lively discussion, "( '1+1=2' )" isn't always necessarily true: even the result of this simplistic equation depends on the two units of measure assigned for its accuracy and validity [including 'thumbs down'].
Originally posted by EladarWhen was its existence ever threatened that is your claim and where is your evidence? That some Indian guy is quoted as saying Hamas doesn't think they have the right to exist? that its? How is that threatening their very existence as you have claimed? That is correct it doesn't and your regurgitation of American-Isreali propaganda is as meaningless and devoid of reason as many of your other ludicrous and unsubstantiated assertions. You are a clone, programmed to regurgitate propaganda.
You are one sick European Jew hating guy.
[b]The PA Ambassador to India, Adli Sadeq, wrote in the official PA daily: "They [Israelis] have a common mistake or misconception by which they fool themselves, assuming that Fatah accepts them and recognizes the right of their state to exist, and that it is Hamas alone that loathes them and does not recognize the ...[text shortened]... ember 26, 2011)
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2679/gingrich-palestinian-authority-pmw[/b]
Is that really the best you can do, call everyone that asks a reason from you a sick European Jew hater, wow? You really are a moron.
Originally posted by EladarAnd out of gratitude for your support for them Al Qaeda flew some airliners into some buildings in your country.
Why not allow them to defend themselves in an area that is very hostile to their very existence?
Why did the US give terrorists money and guns? We did it to counter the Russians who are now back in the game.
The point I've been trying to get through to you is that the best defence is to not make enemies in the first place. Where there are enemies diplomacy should be at the least attempted and where possible accommodations reached, Israel has not done anywhere near enough in that regard.
Originally posted by EladarRejecting the right of the Zionists to establish an apartheid state for Jews - including converts to Judaism - by driving non Jews out of their homes and off their land is not at all a mark of antisemitism and indeed many Jews reject the Zionist prospectus in its entirety. Some of the most serious and comprehensive studies refuting the claims of Zionists have been by Jewish academics working in Israel.
You are one sick European Jew hating guy.
[b]The PA Ambassador to India, Adli Sadeq, wrote in the official PA daily: "They [Israelis] have a common mistake or misconception by which they fool themselves, assuming that Fatah accepts them and recognizes the right of their state to exist, and that it is Hamas alone that loathes them and does not recognize the ...[text shortened]... ember 26, 2011)
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2679/gingrich-palestinian-authority-pmw[/b]
Saying the state has no right to exist is not the same as saying Jews do not. It is offensive as well as stupid to insult us by misrepresentation of our views. Notice though that we have heard participants on this very forum disputing the right to exist of Palestinians.
Originally posted by Eladar
You are one sick European Jew hating guy.
[b]The PA Ambassador to India, Adli Sadeq, wrote in the official PA daily: "They [Israelis] have a common mistake or misconception by which they fool themselves, assuming that Fatah accepts them and recognizes the right of their state to exist, and that it is Hamas alone that loathes them and does not recognize the ...[text shortened]... ember 26, 2011)
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2679/gingrich-palestinian-authority-pmw[/b]
You are one sick European Jew hating guy.Is it just I who finds dissonance in Eladar's apparent belief that antisemitism is a characteristically European habit?
Originally posted by finneganboth states have the right to exist. at the very least because there are people with a desire to live in those states respectively.
Rejecting the right of the Zionists to establish an apartheid state for Jews - including converts to Judaism - by driving non Jews out of their homes and off their land is not at all a mark of antisemitism and indeed many Jews reject the Zionist prospectus in its entirety. Some of the most serious and comprehensive studies refuting the claims of Zionists h ...[text shortened]... that we have heard participants on this very forum disputing the right to exist of Palestinians.