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Originally posted by Wajoma
I know what climate change is dolt boy, it has changed through out the history of the world.

My question was, and it remains a legitimate question, even if I've given up asking the fanatics, is: What is the temperature now, and what should it be if man never ventured out of the caves and learned to light a fire?

Why would you expect a more competent answer on this forum than from an international convention of scientists?

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

Who on this forum is better qualified?

Originally posted by finnegan
Why would you expect a more competent answer on this forum than from an international convention of scientists?

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
[b]Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,and most of the leading scientific organizations worl ...[text shortened]... issued public statements endorsing this position.

Who on this forum is better qualified?[/b]

Another fanatic so I wont bother asking you again either.

Originally posted by Wajoma
Another fanatic so I wont bother asking you again either.

It is not fanatical to rely on the evidence of science in properly peer reviewed research.

How do you defend against the allegation that you are ignorant and bigoted?

Originally posted by Wajoma
My question was, ... is: What is the temperature now, and what should it be if man never ventured out of the caves and learned to light a fire?

What do you mean by "the temperature now"?

The fact is that mean temperatures are rising and the rise correlates
with increased CO2 and we (Mankind) produce the CO2.

Now maybe increasing temperatures cause us to burn more stuff ... but
I see it the other way around.

Originally posted by Wajoma
Another fanatic so I wont bother asking you again either.

Please DO NOT MOVE TO OZ.

You will destroy my joke.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
What do you mean by "the temperature now"?

The fact is that mean temperatures are rising and the rise correlates
with increased CO2 and we (Mankind) produce the CO2.

Now maybe increasing temperatures cause us to burn more stuff ... but
I see it the other way around.

All animals produce CO2.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Please DO NOT MOVE TO OZ.

You will destroy my joke.

I've been sending that response (my post and Wajoma's reply) around to friends and family and it is regarded as the funniest thing going. Could be better than the silly kittens videos.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
What do you mean by "the temperature now"?

The fact is that mean temperatures are rising and the rise correlates
with increased CO2 and we (Mankind) produce the CO2.

Now maybe increasing temperatures cause us to burn more stuff ... but
I see it the other way around.

So you're answering the question wolfgang, good for you, the others lack the integrity. If man never rose to his current status, never discovered electricity and all the rest of those great things if he remained no more than an ape, the temperature would not increase it would go in a straight line right across the page.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
What do you mean by "the temperature now"?

The fact is that mean temperatures are rising and the rise correlates
with increased CO2 and we (Mankind) produce the CO2.

Now maybe increasing temperatures cause us to burn more stuff ... but
I see it the other way around.

Of course that begs the question what caused warming before men, before industrialisation. But you made an attempt, a poor attempt, it was more than the dodges and evasion the others came up with.

Originally posted by Wajoma
So you're answering the question wolfgang, good for you, the others lack the integrity. If man never rose to his current status, never discovered electricity and all the rest of those great things if he remained no more than an ape, the temperature would not increase it would go in a straight line right across the page.

Nothing to do with integrity.. It is ridiculous to put more weight on the opinions of people on this forum than on the collective and tested opinion of scientists. It would be a pompous ass who put themselves forward as a pundit in opposition that expertise.

If you want to argue that they are wrong then the onus is on you to demonstrate this. It is not on us to convince you, since your inability to grasp the science is your problem, reflecting a poor education and prior ideological commitment.

YouTube

Originally posted by finnegan
Nothing to do with integrity.. It is ridiculous to put more weight on the opinions of people on this forum than on the collective and tested opinion of scientists. It would be a pompous ass who put themselves forward as a pundit in opposition that expertise.

If you want to argue that they are wrong then the onus is on you to demonstrate this. It is no ...[text shortened]... m, reflecting a poor education and prior ideological commitment.

http://youtu.be/SI5ulKiZAoE

I asked a question, wolfgang thought he knew the answer and had a go at answering it.
You were asked the same question, you had no idea of the answer so you tried evasion and insult, should have just shut up.
robbie also had no idea, he also resorted to evasion and insult.

The one that asks might be ignorant, that's why they ask. The one with the bs answers and insults, well, that's you.

Originally posted by Wajoma
I asked a question, wolfgang thought he knew the answer and had a go at answering it.
You were asked the same question, you had no idea of the answer so you tried evasion and insult, should have just shut up.
robbie also had no idea, he also resorted to evasion and insult.

The one that asks might be ignorant, that's why they ask. The one with the bs answers and insults, well, that's you.

You talk such rubbish. You are asking slightly silly questions of people unqualified to answer and I pointed that out, with reference to where the authoritative answers may be sought. You seem to consider that relying on published scientific reports is evasive when it clearly is not evasive at all - it directly deals with your [silly] question.

Any suggestion that I am being insulting, however, is entirely accurate. Your earlier post has given great amusement to a number of people already and I am sure will continue to do so, because it is so stupid it stands out for stupidity; in any contest for the most stupid response it will do well.

Originally posted by RJHinds
All animals produce CO2.

That is part of the natural carbon cycle numbnuts.

Originally posted by Wajoma
So you're answering the question wolfgang, good for you, the others lack the integrity. If man never rose to his current status, never discovered electricity and all the rest of those great things if he remained no more than an ape, the temperature would not increase it would go in a straight line right across the page.

Of course the line would not go straight across the page.
World climate is a dynamic equilibrium, it changes greatly
over millennia. What Man is doing is promoting a fast
climate change which does not allow any eco-systems time
to adjust.

Originally posted by Wajoma
Of course that begs the question what caused warming before men, before industrialisation. But you made an attempt, a poor attempt, it was more than the dodges and evasion the others came up with.

Dynamic equilibrium.

Look it up.