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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 11:40
    Children need to be protected from the compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world.

    Agree or disagree?

    Why?
  2. 13 Oct '11 11:56
    Originally posted by FMF
    Children need to be protected from the compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world.

    Agree or disagree?

    Why?
    Disagree.

    Some may not subscribe to alarmist views about compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world, and for these people who are skeptical about this particular view of the susceptibility of children to adverts and commercials it seems entirely otiose to ban certain marketing tactics. Some may also deem it unnecessarily punitive and misguided, on the grounds that even if such vices do indeed exist in our society it should be the parents duty to protect their children from falling prey to unscrupulous businesses, a duty which can't be performed by government.
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 12:05
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    Disagree.

    Some may not subscribe to alarmist views about compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world, and for these people who are skeptical about this particular view of the susceptibility of children to adverts and commercials it seems entirely otiose to ban certain marketing tactics. Some may also deem it unnecessarily punitive an ...[text shortened]... en from falling prey to unscrupulous businesses, a duty which can't be performed by government.
    Do you think, for example, that tobacco companies should be permitted to deliberately target children?
  4. 13 Oct '11 12:22
    Originally posted by FMF
    Children need to be protected from the compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world.

    Agree or disagree?

    Why?
    What are you looking to ban? Is a free playground in a restaurant permissible? Are free entertainers like Ronald McDonald permissible? Is a free game with a meal permissible? Are recognizable symbols for child who can't read like Golden Arches permissible? Is it Ok to do all of these things at the same time?
  5. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 12:31
    Originally posted by quackquack
    What are you looking to ban? Is a free playground in a restaurant permissible? Are free entertainers like Ronald McDonald permissible? Is a free game with a meal permissible? Are recognizable symbols for child who can't read like Golden Arches permissible? Is it Ok to do all of these things at the same time?
    It seems you think the OP implies a proposed blanket ban on everything. It was not intended that way. Well, let's start with cigarettes. See if we agree on that.
  6. 13 Oct '11 12:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    It seems you think the OP implies a proposed blanket ban on everything. It was not intended that way. Well, let's start with cigarettes. See if we agree on that.
    I would be for a ban on advertising cigarettes to people of any age.
  7. Subscriber WoodPush
    Pusher of wood
    13 Oct '11 13:31 / 1 edit
    Would you ban marketing those toddler gyms, or pump-it-up party places, or child tutoring services?

    Because those are pretty much under the umbrella of compulsive consumerism too...
  8. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    13 Oct '11 13:32
    Originally posted by FMF
    Children need to be protected from the compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world.

    Yes, by their parents.
  9. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 13:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Originally posted by FMF
    [b]Children need to be protected from the compulsive consumerism and commercialism of the adult world.


    Yes, by their parents.[/b]
    So if - say - cigarette companies decide to target children, it's the parents who have to deal with the effects of that?
  10. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 13:43
    Originally posted by WoodPush
    Would you ban marketing those toddler gyms, or pump-it-up party places, or child tutoring services?
    Is that what you think I mean?
  11. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    13 Oct '11 13:44
    Originally posted by FMF
    So if - say - cigarette companies target children, it's the parents who have to deal with the effects of that?
    Yes.
  12. Subscriber WoodPush
    Pusher of wood
    13 Oct '11 13:48
    Originally posted by FMF
    Is that what you think I mean?
    I'm really not sure. I know a lot of people hate those places, and consider them an example of how lazy we've become, pawning our kids off to others rather than teaching them ourselves.

    So, is it what you mean?
  13. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 13:53
    Originally posted by WoodPush
    I'm really not sure. I know a lot of people hate those places, and consider them an example of how lazy we've become, pawning our kids off to others rather than teaching them ourselves.
    All playgroups and other 'educational' facilities I have used for my children have secured my business by targeting me with their marketing, not my children.
  14. Subscriber WoodPush
    Pusher of wood
    13 Oct '11 13:55
    Oh, so you are the one making the decisions, not your kid?
  15. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    13 Oct '11 13:56
    Originally posted by WoodPush
    So, is it what you mean?
    I don't mean clowns entertaining children as they eat burgers and I don't mean the marketing of child tutoring services. Are these the only kind of services that the question "Ban Marketing That Targets Children Under 10?" made you think of?