Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterlets hope jlilly learns her lesson.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor jlily. I think all you really need is some inspiration in your life. I suggest you go to the library and check out any number of books from the biography section because each of those people had much harder lives and more difficult circumstances than you ever will and yet they not only overcame their privations but went on to lead interesting and inspiring lives.
Originally posted by jlillyOne of the hallmarks of being an adult is that you're responsible for the decisions you make. Whatever your circumstance, you didn't just wake up, go for a walk, round a corner and step smack dab into the middle of the picture. There were a series of bad decisions that led up to wherever you now find yourself.
Spoken like a true politician: avoid the question.
Answer me DSR: Are all people so fortunate?
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThis isn't always true DSR, is it now?
One of the hallmarks of being an adult is that you're responsible for the decisions you make. Whatever your circumstance, you didn't just wake up, go for a walk, round a corner and step smack dab into the middle of the picture. There were a series of bad decisions that led up to wherever you now find yourself.
You like to over simplify complex circumstances because you can't wrap your republican Big Brain around the fact some people truly get the s*** end of the stick!
Originally posted by MexicoI was looking at the "You attitude".
Yep but the tone and implication of the post was quite clear. Unless you we're trying to make some other point?. If this is the case then I apologise. I doubt it though.
Spelling eh? where's the mistake, except a d/f typo on the second post some missing caps and lazy sentence structure I fail to see any please elucidate for me.....
My point was is there are many reasons for one to be poor, my family was very poor when I was young. Talking about living in a trailer with half the floors under construction, boiling water on the stove due to the water heater being out and not able to get a new one, living on a coleman stove and ice cooler when my parents couldn't afford the light bill.
Looking back then they smoked pot and always seem to have had some. Also my little brother is always in bad straights, and both my brother in laws live in near poverty. But if you work hard save every dime you can and make smart decisions you can get out.
I see first hand the lives of poorer people(my family) and let me tell you they make some of the stupidest decisions. I.E. my brother in law just borrowed money to buy groceries for his kids recently, he also lost his car due to repo, and he got a $1200 dollar check they went and got new name brand clothes and still no car.
My point is I guess not everyone who makes the right decisions can work themselves out of being poor but most can.
Originally posted by torch71Doesn't mean they spent any money on their pot.
Looking back then they smoked pot and always seem to have had some.
You can sell 75% of what you have, smoke your 25%, and use the rest to buy more. They smoked for free if they always had it, pretty sure of it.
Originally posted by jlillyIf your situation is so bad, you should join the military or get a job at Wal-Mart.
This isn't always true DSR, is it now?
You like to over simplify complex circumstances because you can't wrap your republican Big Brain around the fact some people truly get the s*** end of the stick!
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterIf you want to inspire, motivate or help people your current approach is not going to help.
If your situation is so bad, you should join the military or get a job at Wal-Mart.
Neither is pointing people to the bio sections of libraries. Those lives are RARE exceptions where the right amount of effort was exerted at the right time and things came together. I would say my life is one of those exceptions... raised my entire life on welfare. Things came together for me. And the reason is my grandmother. I was fortunate to have one person help me overcome all the things which kept knocking me down. She helped emotionally, spiritually and financially. A lot of people do not have that.
Perhaps your life has gone to plan, but you really need to back off this approach that everyone's life can be solved by applying your limited knowledge or experience. You want to inspire people, find another way. Your current approach is highly critical and not very motivational. You come off like some elitist knob.
Seriously, you don't need to change your beliefs, just change your attitude towards people because it is not productive nor helpful.
Originally posted by minutiae70I would say that the approach by the left is that poverty is caused by oppression from the rich while the right's approach is that poverty is caused by lack of initiative and abject laziness. I say they are both right in these assessments. Therefore, I say that any approach to attacking the problem of poverty that do not take these two factors into consideration is wanting to say the least.
If you want to inspire, motivate or help people your current approach is not going to help.
Neither is pointing people to the bio sections of libraries. Those lives are RARE exceptions where the right amount of effort was exerted at the right time and things came together. I would say my life is one of those exceptions... raised my entire life on we ...[text shortened]... ur beliefs, just change your attitude towards people because it is not productive nor helpful.
Originally posted by whodeyI dont subscribe to the left because its not in the rich's interest to keep people too poor. And I don't subscribe to the right's judgement because it is based loosely on a FEW people in a much larger group of poor who do actually work and have jobs, but struggle meeting the cost of every day life for numerous reasons.
I would say that the approach by the left is that poverty is caused by oppression from the rich while the right's approach is that poverty is caused by lack of initiative and abject laziness. I say they are both right in these assessments. Therefore, I say that any approach to attacking the problem of poverty that do not take these two factors into consideration is wanting to say the least.
So I am not advocating either approach. Just think DSRs attitude and approach is not helpful. And if DSR wants to be constructive, then s/he needs to be made aware that his/her current approach is not going to get results.