@ponderable said"IRS proposal to monitor. bank accounts"
Please quote the text of the proposal. Then we can have a debate (This is debate Forum btw...not accusation slinging Forum).
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@ponderable saidSee You Tube which MB posted above. You can find this all on the internet so easily, why waste time typing a few sentences requesting it, when you can type 5 words in your browser. That is so Jimm, or MGM. Dont be like them. I am trying to safe the dignity of the forum,
Please quote the text of the proposal. Then we can have a debate (This is debate Forum btw...not accusation slinging Forum).
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@jimm619 saidit also clearly states a warrant is needed.
Ignorant....yes you are...
I suggest you re-read what I posted....
it clearly states that NO PROBABLE CAUSE is needed,
what that means, genius, is they look at whatever, whenever.
Shav where are you? We need an alert here~!
You dont seem to understand it is two different laws, (no warrant needed in the second one) or you do but wont to admit it….anyway you are appearing foolish.
@metal-brain saidSnowden is a traitor.
The NSA got away with it even after Snowden blew the whistle on them. You didn't think it would stop there, did you? The parasitic elites have no respect for the constitution. They think they own us.
@averagejoe1 saidRich tax cheats aren't the only tax cheats.
You say to crackdown on rich tax cheats. Then why have they empowered themselves to look into the records of EVERYONE in the United States that have $600 in their account. How do you account for that, if you think they are only after a rich.
Do you know 81,000 new IRS agents have been hired for this? Costs millions. You should get a poser board and march, Use IRS Money for Free Child Care and Abortions!!!
@suzianne saidNo, they are just the biggest tax cheats.
Rich tax cheats aren't the only tax cheats.
They have more and they don't really cheat because it is legal, but the middle and lower class do not have those options like rich people do. The rich bought off government to get tax loopholes for themselves. You live in a plutocracy. Stop fooling yourself.
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@metal-brain saidThere are any number of hangers-on that profit from any move the actual rich make to limit their culpability. That is why so many are Republicans, Not because they want to "save the country", but to make money. This is why Trump was elected.
No, they are just the biggest tax cheats.
They have more and they don't really cheat because it is legal, but the middle and lower class do not have those options like rich people do. The rich bought off government to get tax loopholes for themselves. You live in a plutocracy. Stop fooling yourself.
The proposal is no big deal; "banks are already required to send a 1099 to their customers and the IRS on any account that earns just $10 of interest or more. " https://time.com/6106301/irs-tax-bank-reporting-biden/
"The Biden Administration wants banks to send taxpayers and the IRS an updated form that will contain only two additional numbers: total deposits and total withdrawals for accounts that have a certain amount of money flowing in or out. That’s it."
Here's the real skinny:
"Regular wage-earners—those who receive a W-2 from their employer every year—pay at least 95% of the taxes they owe because the employee and the IRS both know how much the person earned. Similarly, retired individuals who receive social security or interest on their savings receive a 1099 report showing how much they received. On the other hand, a large and growing group of taxpayers don’t receive any of these reports. These are primarily wealthy people who receive their income through business partnerships or other entities on which there is little or no reporting to the IRS. According to IRS studies, these taxpayers only pay on average 50% of the taxes they owe."
So basically the only ones who will be adversely effected are rich folks who want to cheat on their taxes like they already do.
@suzianne saidNo, he stood up courageously to the (NSA) violators of the 4th constitutional amendment. That makes him a hero. A decent president would pardon him and ASSANGE too. Do you get off knowing Assange is being tortured?
Snowden is a traitor.
BTW, you are defending constitutional overreach GW Bush is responsible for. Why don't you just admit you love Bush and the police state he gave you? Democrats must secretly love republicans. Michelle Obama loves GW Bush, why shouldn't you?
Let the secret love affair between you and Bush flourish.
@no1marauder saidYou are so misinformed. The rich use trusts, shell companies and tax havens like the Cayman Islands and South Dakota. The notion that it is to affect the rich more than the poor is pure propaganda.
The proposal is no big deal; "banks are already required to send a 1099 to their customers and the IRS on any account that earns just $10 of interest or more. " https://time.com/6106301/irs-tax-bank-reporting-biden/
"The Biden Administration wants banks to send taxpayers and the IRS an updated form that will contain only two additional numbers: total deposits and total ...[text shortened]... who will be adversely effected are rich folks who want to cheat on their taxes like they already do.
Dude, we live in a plutocracy. The rich always get their way. It is the poor they fear. Remember that song "eat the Rich" by Krokus?
They want to control the poor. They are what they fear the most.
@metal-brain saidAnd you are a liar, blinded by your misdirection attempts.
No, he stood up courageously to the (NSA) violators of the 4th constitutional amendment. That makes him a hero. A decent president would pardon him and ASSANGE too. Do you get off knowing Assange is being tortured?
BTW, you are defending constitutional overreach GW Bush is responsible for. Why don't you just admit you love Bush and the police state he gave you? Democra ...[text shortened]... bama loves GW Bush, why shouldn't you?
Let the secret love affair between you and Bush flourish.
And Assange should be tortured. He's a traitor too.
@metal-brain saidAgain, no one doubts any of that. It is you connecting your Fact A to Action B, C and D that is ridiculous.
You are so misinformed. The rich use trusts, shell companies and tax havens like the Cayman Islands and South Dakota. The notion that it is to affect the rich more than the poor is pure propaganda.
Dude, we live in a plutocracy. The rich always get their way. It is the poor they fear. Remember that song "eat the Rich" by Krokus?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJxy6Xaa544
They want to control the poor. They are what they fear the most.
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@metal-brain saidNo, for distributing doctored Russian emails, furthering the Russian attempt to interfere in the 2016 election.
For being a journalist?
So MBS was right for killing and dismembering a journalists body, right?
I see how you really are.
And why are you bringing up MBS?
Oh yeah, your favorite tactic of misdirection.