@rajk999 saidThere are no communist countries. Nobody started communism aside from the idea of Marxism.
Go to Cuba and buy your cigars. Yes the US wanted to hurt Cuba and Cuba was aware of that back in 1959 when they started communism. The US [and many of the western countries have decided not to trade with communist countries. I agree with them.
No. Im not interested in free markets. Im interested in seeing the death of communism and socialism. Thankfuly I dont have lon ...[text shortened]... its way down. North Korea is next. Are you going to cry and throw a tantrum when that happens ? 😀
People often call countries communist that are not communist. Communist countries do not really exist and never have. Countries that aspire to be communist and are working toward that goal are called socialist countries. Socialist countries do not exist either.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
Name one socialist country that exists today.
@averagejoe1 saidActually Norway is one of the best countries in the world for startups as are Sweden and Finland: https://startupstash.com/norwegian-startups/
@AverageJoe1 Please allow me to highlight a few things.......
1. Sounds like innovation would be killed. You know,, of course, that Americans are innovative, witness your computer. How would we communicate !!
2. Welfare state? Yeah, right.
3. New company startups just don't happen in Nordic countries. Speaking for myself, i live and breathe investing in company s ...[text shortened]... trusting the govt to control our lives? We would have to if you make us like Norway. Please don't.
@averagejoe1 saidThe US has a rate of drug overdose deaths about 5 times higher per capita than the Nordic countries.https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-05/nifh-ncs052720.php
@AverageJoe1 Please allow me to highlight a few things.......
1. Sounds like innovation would be killed. You know,, of course, that Americans are innovative, witness your computer. How would we communicate !!
2. Welfare state? Yeah, right.
3. New company startups just don't happen in Nordic countries. Speaking for myself, i live and breathe investing in company s ...[text shortened]... trusting the govt to control our lives? We would have to if you make us like Norway. Please don't.
@averagejoe1 saidPearl Harbor was a military base and thus a legitimate target in war.
Was Pearl a war crime? You messin' w me?
Oh, I get it....a lib ploy,,,,We were not at 'war' with the japs, so it could not be regarded a war crime?
Hiroshima was a city packed with civilians who were deliberately targeted.
@metal-brain saidHey you really sound like a teenager. Forget your definitions. This is the real world so I have a better idea. You go and educate yourself as to why the embargo was started against Cuba.
There are no communist countries. Nobody started communism aside from the idea of Marxism.
People often call countries communist that are not communist. Communist countries do not really exist and never have. Countries that aspire to be communist and are working toward that goal are called socialist countries. Socialist countries do not exist either.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
Name one socialist country that exists today.
I will give you a start
- Cuba chased out the foreign capitalists
- Castro started what he called a communist system of government.
- The US retaliated with the embargo.
If you have a problem with what Cuba is then take that up with them.
@rajk999 saidWhen the People rebel and successfully throw off the yoke of a dictator who allowed foreign firms to gain a stranglehold on a countries' resources, it is illogical to expect them to allow such a system to continue. The US has practiced "gunboats diplomacy" in the Western Hemisphere to protect a few rich Americans' holdings for over a century.
Several countries have tried socialist principles and they wilfully created enmity with the western countries. Apart from Cuba, there was Tanzania which under Julius Neyere expelled all foreign firms and took their assets. Venezuela did the same. Do you really think any right thinking govt will have dealings with them after that?
The embargo and subsequent attempts to overthrow Cuba's government were a policy error (which at one point almost led to nuclear war). It is almost inconceivable that this Cold War relic is still in place.
@no1marauder saidA preemptive strike .. because there was no war yet between Japan and the USA. It is of the same type of strike Israel is famous for. Israel did it to the surrounding warring countries in the 1967 Six Day War, which you condemned as cowardly. You are not a fair minded person. If you condemn Israel then you have to condemn Japan for the Pearl Harbour bombing as well.
Pearl Harbor was a military base and thus a legitimate target in war.
Hiroshima was a city packed with civilians who were deliberately targeted.
@no1marauder saidSegue-Marauder marauds again!!! Totally misrepresents my post. I said leading countries in 'anti-depressants' (used by the wimpy nords for depression)., He segues instead that the USA is high in "DRUG overdose". Who said overdose?? 🤔 Who said drugs? Overdose implies death. Who said death?
The US has a rate of drug overdose deaths about 5 times higher per capita than the Nordic countries.https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-05/nifh-ncs052720.php
Please re-read my post, and practice relating directly back to a question, you can do this. It may take practice, but it is possible. Read the question, or the fact, or the premise, and respond thereto. Piece of cake. Do you really want the government to tuck you in every night? Never mind, you need not answer.
@rajk999 saidI can and do condemn both.
A preemptive strike .. because there was no war yet between Japan and the USA. It is of the same type of strike Israel is famous for. Israel did it to the surrounding warring countries in the 1967 Six Day War, which you condemned as cowardly. You are not a fair minded person. If you condemn Israel then you have to condemn Japan for the Pearl Harbour bombing as well.
That is not the same as considering them a "war crime".
@averagejoe1 saidSo you'd rather have a country with 5 times the rate of drug overdose deaths per capita than one that, maybe, uses more antidepressants per capita?
Segue-Marauder marauds again!!! Totally misrepresents my post. I said leading countries in 'anti-depressants' (used by the wimpy nords for depression)., He segues instead that the USA is high in "DRUG overdose". Who said overdose?? 🤔 Who said drugs? Overdose implies death. Who said death?
Please re-read my post, and practice relating directly back to a questi ...[text shortened]... ke. Do you really want the government to tuck you in every night? Never mind, you need not answer.
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@no1marauder saidAre you daft? There are some idiots in this country who want us to...go to fairyland and nirvana?...and accept all that goes with it. I thought, Great, I will look up Nordica. I'm Going!!!! But then, I saw that all these sister countries have a high rate of people who are depressed. Depressed, Marauder. You can start another thread about drug abuse, and maybe title it "A Friendly Segue From Another Nordic Thread', something like that.
So you'd rather have a country with 5 times the rate of drug overdose deaths per capita than one that, maybe, uses more antidepressants per capita?
But this issue of the moment, that I brought up myself, is about how i discovered that it is not a good idea to choose to move to a country full of depressed people, and maybe become one. That's fair, isn't it? Frankly, it was to put down these silly thoughts of us being like Nordica.
For the record, I don't know anyone who decided to kill themselves with drugs. You know me......poor people want to be poor, pregnant girls want to be pregnant, and drug overdosers, well, they choose to overdose. You really could start an overdose thread, but I won't be there, as I know nothing about it.
You see, it may be possible for me to fall into depression if I am thwarted in many ways by the government, not being able to get up to make (my own) money, etc. But Marauder, in making my decision to become Nordic, drugs would not be a consideration. Isn't that a voluntary thing? Depression is not.
@averagejoe1 saidFinland and Norway are the two happiest countries on Earth; the US has fallen to 18th.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/14/finland-happiest-country-world-un-report
Are you daft? There are some idiots in this country who want us to...go to fairyland and nirvana?...and accept all that goes with it. I thought, Great, I will look up Nordica. I'm Going!!!! But then, I saw that all these sister countries have a high rate of people who are depressed. Depressed, Marauder. You can start another thread about drug abuse, and maybe title ...[text shortened]... ecome Nordic, drugs would not be a consideration. Isn't that a voluntary thing? Depression is not.
18.1% of US adults have anxiety disorder but only 36.9% of them are treated.https://adaa.org/understanding-anxiety/facts-statistics
In Nordic countries, 12.3% report they are "struggling" or "suffering". https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/25/nordic-countries-happy-reputation-masks-sadness-of-young-says-report
@no1marauder said'Happy' is quite a general term. I will say that they don'y know much about the outside world (taxes take away any traveling money,) for camparing to, so happy is as easy a word as any to say how one is).
Finland and Norway are the two happiest countries on Earth; the US has fallen to 18th.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/14/finland-happiest-country-world-un-report
18.1% of US adults have anxiety disorder but only 36.9% of them are treated.https://adaa.org/understanding-anxiety/facts-statistics
In Nordic countries, 12.3% report they are "struggling" or "suf ...[text shortened]... eguardian.com/world/2018/aug/25/nordic-countries-happy-reputation-masks-sadness-of-young-says-report
But Marauder, here you go again. You throw 'anxiety disorder' into a discussion that is about Anti-Depressants, Marauder, anxiety disorder and depression are two entirely separate things. You are killing me and many of your confused readers. Making me look bad. I have enlightened everyone to not get to anxious about going to 'happy land Nordia',because people there are high on the list globally for depression.
Just when that sinks in, you write about anxiety disorder like you are properly melded into the thread, which you are not.
Everyone, Marauder may be right about anxiety disorder in the USA. But, I was writing about Depression, in countries that are far away from the USA.
Whew.