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    I went to the web sites of all the candidates someone recently told me were 'Tea Party' candidates. I saw no condemnation of the wars abroad and in fact several cautions about cutting defense spending when the nation was 'at peril.' Could it be that these candidates are just the same old Republicans saying only what their owners tell them to say?

    As for who started what - you are apparently blissfully ignorant of the fact that Reagan presided over the largest military spending spree in the history of world and unaware that it was no coincidence that Reagan came from California and Bush from Texas - the 2 largest central government financed economies in the world.

    How long will you scream like a banshee about the knife repeatably entering your back before you turn around and face the fact that you are 'fronting' your own assailant?
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    15 Oct '10 20:191 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    The notion that you can make the economy safe and end all risk is absurd.....unless it is state run. Of course, with risk comes growth. Without risk equals no growth. So if you offer a plan to withdraw all risk economically perhaps you would like to live in Cuba.

    As for the economy recovering, increasing government red tape and taxes and entitlements is ...[text shortened]... at popular. Again, its all part of fiscal sanity to bring the troops home and end the spending.
    But has the Tea Party made specific proposals regarding the things that I mentioned? I want to hear specific ideas for making the government work better and more efficiently.

    This movement has made a lot of statements criticizing Obama's approaches -- but anyone can criticize what someone else is doing -- the real challenge is for the leaders of the movement to come up with their own original proposals and have to defend them against critics. This would show everyone that the movement will be taking the job of governing seriously.

    But if your movement is just making endless protestations and offering little more than general proclamations about how wonderful the Constitution is - then it's extremely likely that your movement is going to be a terrible disappointment. When all these candidates get to Washington carrying with them nothing but empty sermons, the establishment is going to laugh at them and then continue on with business as usual.
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    15 Oct '10 23:50
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    "environmental concentrated solutions,"-badmoon


    ooh,that sounds good badmoon. almost intellectual. what does that mean exactly?

    Cap and tax perhaps?
    Thanks, I worked hard on that one.

    Energy Policies, my friend.

    40% of the stimulus went to tax breaks, I've read. It was so obstructed it had little chance to address the problems that plague us. It should've been 2x or 3x larger.
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    15 Oct '10 23:58
    Originally posted by badmoon
    Thanks, I worked hard on that one.

    Energy Policies, my friend.

    40% of the stimulus went to tax breaks, I've read. It was so obstructed it had little chance to address the problems that plague us. It should've been 2x or 3x larger.
    the stimulus should of been 2 or 3x larger? all borrowed from China right? gimme a break.
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    16 Oct '10 01:182 edits
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    But has the Tea Party made specific proposals regarding the things that I mentioned? I want to hear specific ideas for making the government work better and more efficiently.

    This movement has made a lot of statements criticizing Obama's approaches -- but anyone can criticize what someone else is doing -- the real challenge is for the leaders of the mo mons, the establishment is going to laugh at them and then continue on with business as usual.
    The more society runs to government for "solutions" the more "solutions" government will give them. Bit by bit the private sector and individual freedoms will wane until socialism is in full throddle.

    Conversely, the Founding Fathers and the Constitution proclaim that government should be limited and let those that are governed live as free as possible. Should these antiquated ideas be thrown out the window in favor of the socialism that the rest of the world is following? That is for the American people to decide.

    As for ideas, I have gone to great lenght in describing many of them. Granted, none are a silver bullet for taking care of all our problmes all the time, but then, no one else can deliver either even though they may proport to be able to do so. Apparently you were largely unimpressed.
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    16 Oct '10 08:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    The more society runs to government for "solutions" the more "solutions" government will give them. Bit by bit the private sector and individual freedoms will wane until socialism is in full throddle.

    Conversely, the Founding Fathers and the Constitution proclaim that government should be limited and let those that are governed live as free as possible. ...[text shortened]... even though they may proport to be able to do so. Apparently you were largely unimpressed.
    I'm impressed whodey, cramming so many GOP talking points in such a small post.
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    16 Oct '10 12:391 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    ........I suppose now we can continue the progressive insanity of living beyond our means so carry on!!
    ...I now its a lousy job, but someone's gotta do it........
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    16 Oct '10 18:17
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-13/stimulus-traveling-salesman-biden-making-hard-sell-to-middle-class-voters.html

    According to Vice President Biden, Democrats are not running on the administrations accomplishments like health care and financial regulatory overhaul and the stimulus package because, "it's just too hard to explain".

    Perhaps some of the geniuses on this site can xplain it to my feeble mind.
    it's no use. all of us are tards when compared to Biden. just look at his forehead!
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    37 cents of every dollar spent is borrowed! My poor children and grandchildren.......
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    17 Oct '10 04:04
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    I went to the web sites of all the candidates someone recently told me were 'Tea Party' candidates. I saw no condemnation of the wars abroad and in fact several cautions about cutting defense spending when the nation was 'at peril.' Could it be that these candidates are just the same old Republicans saying only what their owners tell them to say?

    A ...[text shortened]... back before you turn around and face the fact that you are 'fronting' your own assailant?
    are any Democrats condemning wars abroad?
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    17 Oct '10 11:32
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    it's no use. all of us are tards when compared to Biden. just look at his forehead!
    You know I think you are right. I think people should just realize that the average Joe is an uninformed idiot that needs to be lead by a bunch of elites. That is why I just did not understand all of the lefties out there who opposed the Iraq and Aghanistan wars. Clearly they are too complicated to understand and is probably why they opposed them. In fact, as we see Obama and company clearly agree with us being there. So the next time any of you people decide to protest the government remember these wise words of wisdom, "Let it be". I know its a little John Leninish but I figure those on the left could identify with someone who had the name "Lenin". 😛
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    17 Oct '10 14:23
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    are any Democrats condemning wars abroad?
    Yes.
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    17 Oct '10 14:25
    Originally posted by whodey
    You know I think you are right. I think people should just realize that the average Joe is an uninformed idiot that needs to be lead by a bunch of elites. That is why I just did not understand all of the lefties out there who opposed the Iraq and Aghanistan wars. Clearly they are too complicated to understand and is probably why they opposed them. In fact ...[text shortened]... ish but I figure those on the left could identify with someone who had the name "Lenin". 😛
    I've tried about 6 times to parse that paragraph and it makes absolutely no sense. Are you channeling Sister Sarah? (Who BTW, wants more wars.)
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    17 Oct '10 15:382 edits
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    Yes.
    Of course you are right. Democrats condemn wars abroad while voting to go to war. Then after they get done condemning them and gain control of power they remain.Just continue to vote for the same people with the notion that the opposing party is so much worse than the one you are voting for.

    Well, at least they got your vote. 😉😀
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    17 Oct '10 15:54
    Originally posted by whodey
    Of course you are right. Democrats condemn wars abroad while voting to go to war. Then after they get done condemning them and gain control of power they remain.Just continue to vote for the same people with the notion that the opposing party is so much worse than the one you are voting for.

    Well, at least they got your vote. 😉😀
    If I didn't know you any better I'd say this was a pretty good attempt at self-deprecation.
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