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14 Jul 23
The higher degrees have the bulk of student loans, the ones who least need to be parasites.
If Biden can bend the rules to suit their radical agenda, he will do it. If they can find a way to make illegals legal, they are going to do it. No authority whatsoever. Is this a revolt against the SCOTUS?.
Does this undermine democracy? Sonhouse, what do you think?? There are three branches of government.....when Biden does not get his way, they do a work-around. It is all about the radical agenda. They will pick out 800,000 people, including those with PHDs in gender studies and greek mythology. YOu are all abunch of fairies.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/14/bidens-department-of-education-to-cancel-39b-in-student-loans/#
15 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidDon't gimme this crap about "breaking the rules" when Mitch McConnell gave Obama's SC pick to Trump. That was flagrantly breaking the rules, and is the main reason you fascists now have a super majority on the court.
The higher degrees have the bulk of student loans, the ones who least need to be parasites.
If Biden can bend the rules to suit their radical agenda, he will do it. If they can find a way to make illegals legal, they are going to do it. No authority whatsoever. Is this a revolt against the SCOTUS?.
Does this undermine democracy? Sonhouse, what do you think? ...[text shortened]... es.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/14/bidens-department-of-education-to-cancel-39b-in-student-loans/#
@suzianne saidIf you break a rule and run a red light, should I be able to break the rule myself, and run the red light?. You are a lightweight in debates.
Don't gimme this crap about "breaking the rules" when Mitch McConnell gave Obama's SC pick to Trump. That was flagrantly breaking the rules, and is the main reason you fascists now have a super majority on the court.
This should help.... Read my post on the 'Socialist' thread, page 2, beginniing with ???. What would your answer be? Shav is answering it at this moment. Redeem yourself.
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15 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidyou fell for it…no rule was broken
If you break a rule and run a red light, should I be able to break the rule myself, and run the red light?. You are a lightweight in debates.
This should help.... Read my post on the 'Socialist' thread, page 2, beginniing with ???. What would your answer be? Shav is answering it at this moment. Redeem yourself.
Holders of student debt are not the leeches of society. Big govt loves giving free money to big business. Why not the smaller loans?
The PPP program seems to have resulted in billions of dollars of fraudulent loans that have ultimately turned into grants," said Samuel Kruger, an assistant professor of finance at the University of Texas at Austin who co-authored a paper estimating that $64 billion of the nearly $800 billion in loans issued show signs of fraud, such as suspiciously high payrolls and multiple businesses listed at the same home address.
Biden gives student borrowers back a relatively small amount $10,000 and they can go spend it in our economy. Buy a car or a house, go out to eat at a restaurant, vacation in Florida. Whatever it is, I'd rather have them have it than the government.
15 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidMorally corrupt.
Holders of student debt are not the leeches of society. Big govt loves giving free money to big business. Why not the smaller loans?
The PPP program seems to have resulted in billions of dollars of fraudulent loans that have ultimately turned into grants," said Samuel Kruger, an assistant professor of finance at the University of Texas at Austin who co-authored a paper e ...[text shortened]... a restaurant, vacation in Florida. Whatever it is, I'd rather have them have it than the government.
Without even going into the supposed 'free' money to big business. Have you ever heard the phrase 'Two wrongs don't make a right.'
Here's how it is: Wrong is wrong. Because someone else is getting away with it is not an excuse for everyone else to rort it. It's not an excuse to excuse the same behavior, can't you people see how... ???? damn people are amoral, hopelessly amoral. They see a shop lifter, hey, if they're doing it I can too.
Have you no integrity?
15 Jul 23
@wajoma saidIf you see a shop lifter and a bank robber, but you can only arrest one, which one?
Morally corrupt.
Without even going into the supposed 'free' money to big business. Have you ever heard the phrase 'Two wrongs don't make a right.'
Here's how it is: Wrong is wrong. Because someone else is getting away with it is not an excuse for everyone else to rort it. It's not an excuse to excuse the same behavior, can't you people see how... ???? damn people ar ...[text shortened]... essly amoral. They see a shop lifter, hey, if they're doing it I can too.
Have you no integrity?
15 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidI don't indulge in your stupid game theory, where I choose one then you introduce a bunch of new criteria.
If you see a shop lifter and a bank robber, but you can only arrest one, which one?
What if the shoplifter was clearing out the whole inventory of a tiny mom and pop store on the edge of bankruptcy and all the bank robber got away with was a few pens? What if this, what if that, what if the other??
One does not excuse the other, end of. The search for moral equivalency is the realm of the amoral looking for a pass for the behavior they know is wrong, they want others to OK their lying to themselves, to be complicit in their self denial.
Get with some principal, and get with it now. For your own sake.
@wajoma saidYou brought up the shop lifter buddy. I was only using your silly analogy. Law enforcement works big to small, not excusing the other, but prioritizing the crime that is more severe.
I don't indulge in your stupid game theory, where I choose one then you introduce a bunch of new criteria.
What if the shoplifter was clearing out the whole inventory of a tiny mom and pop store on the edge of bankruptcy and all the bank robber got away with was a few pens? What if this, what if that, what if the other??
One does not excuse the other, end of. The searc ...[text shortened]... complicit in their self denial.
Get with some principal, and get with it now. For your own sake.
Obviously... lots of folks leeching off the government. If a shop lifter did that to a small mom and pop, they'd be bailed out by insurance and government loans would be forgiven. The corrupt banker gets an island in Bermuda. The shop lifter goes to prison.
15 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidI can assure you 100% I do not count the amoral amongst my buddies. I explained exactly what you were going to do with all your endless scenarios, and adjustment of scenarios and you went and did it anyway.
You brought up the shop lifter buddy. I was only using your silly analogy. Law enforcement works big to small, not excusing the other, but prioritizing the crime that is more severe.
Obviously... lots of folks leeching off the government. If a shop lifter did that to a small mom and pop, they'd be bailed out by insurance and government loans would be forgiven. The corrupt banker gets an island in Bermuda. The shop lifter goes to prison.
Now you want to be excused for ripping of insurance Co's.
Nope, not much chance of us being buddies, I prefer honest people, they are out there.
15 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidAs to your last para above, ....'gives student borrowers back ...." Why not give nurses back..? One just saved the life of a student this morning, car wreck, and then she went to the bank to pay down here loan.
Holders of student debt are not the leeches of society. Big govt loves giving free money to big business. Why not the smaller loans?
The PPP program seems to have resulted in billions of dollars of fraudulent loans that have ultimately turned into grants," said Samuel Kruger, an assistant professor of finance at the University of Texas at Austin who co-authored a paper e ...[text shortened]... a restaurant, vacation in Florida. Whatever it is, I'd rather have them have it than the government.
Meanwhile, student bought another car as you suggest, and took off down I-75 to Florida for the vacation, as you suggest.
Tell us that there is equity here. You libs are a waste. And you still back this president. Sorry to post so often, but I am now going to post him sniffing a 2-year old, while you sit there and say Trump is a sex kinda guy.....like we all are.
15 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidWhat if they're not insured?
You brought up the shop lifter buddy. I was only using your silly analogy. Law enforcement works big to small, not excusing the other, but prioritizing the crime that is more severe.
Obviously... lots of folks leeching off the government. If a shop lifter did that to a small mom and pop, they'd be bailed out by insurance and government loans would be forgiven. The corrupt banker gets an island in Bermuda. The shop lifter goes to prison.
nyah, nyah, gotcha.
See how stupid that is.
@wajoma saidYou started it buddy, with you dumb shop lifter analogy.
What if they're not insured?
nyah, nyah, gotcha.
See how stupid that is.
In this context, it is ok to relieve student debt, because $800 billion in corporate loans were previously relieved. If you think both are morally wrong, that's fine, but I would rather work big to small in terms of fixing the moral corruption in society.
The student loan borrowers are not the leeches of society. The banks being robbed and you want us to arrest the guy stealing a tube of toothpaste.
15 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidNo ijit boy you started the dumb analogies with 'free money' to 'big business' versus 'student debt'. That was exactly my point, that you're still struggling with.
You started it buddy, with you dumb shop lifter analogy.
In this context, it is ok to relieve student debt, because $800 billion in corporate loans were previously relieved. If you think both are morally wrong, that's fine, but I would rather work big to small in terms of fixing the moral corruption in society.
The student loan borrowers are not the leeches of society.