@shavixmir saidwhat is it with you and disgusting references to sex acts?
What if it’s a woman’s brain?
A woman’s brain stuck in a man’s body. From the go?
Does that change anything?
How do you know what you feel like is what we call “man”?
What you’ve done is look in the mirror and concluded: “I have what appears to be a small cock, beer belly, tiny testicles and a hairy arse.
“This fits the description of a man. And since I have feeli ...[text shortened]... down.
There you go. Relax my friend. It is not important to you.
Now, about your small balls…
@dood111 saidI’m not interested in most scholarships ALL scholarships should be given to the disadvantaged students who can make the best use of them not the ones who can kick a ball the furthest.
OMG you do know that most Basketball/Football scholarships DO go to "disadvantaged" youths,,,(blacks),
I would think you'd be all for sport scholarships.
All scholarships should be based on the recipients academic abilities and their level of financial disadvantage. It’s not rocket science.
@kevcvs57 saidKev, you really should understand reality as opposed to trying to dictate a system that will never work.
I’m not interested in most scholarships ALL scholarships should be given to the disadvantaged students who can make the best use of them not the ones who can kick a ball the furthest.
All scholarships should be based on the recipients academic abilities and their level of financial disadvantage. It’s not rocket science.
Colleges and universities run sports programs to **generate revenue** - catch a clue, dude. Some of these college football
teams make many many millions in TV rights, $500 tickets,, etc. Wake up dude. Nobody is going
to support a team of Jerry's Kids because *YOU* say so.
@earl-of-trumps saidRight well let’s stop making out that trans rights are clashing with some grand philanthropic mission on the part of these colleges. Trans rights are obviously up against the sharp edge of capitalism so I’ll come down on the side of trans rights with no qualms whatsoever.
Kev, you really should understand reality as opposed to trying to dictate a system that will never work.
Colleges and universities run sports programs to **generate revenue** - catch a clue, dude. Some of these college football
teams make many many millions in TV rights, $500 tickets,, etc. Wake up dude. Nobody is going
to support a team of Jerry's Kids because *YOU* say so.
Why a society would allow its educational establishments to offer academic resources to the most physically gifted regardless of income rather than the most academically gifted but financially disadvantaged is a question for that society.
You can both support transgender rights *and* acknowledge transwomen have physical advantages over cisgender women. There's nothing wrong with that.
The problem comes when conservatives use those advantages as a thinly-veiled occasion to bash transgender rights. Liberals don't need to throw common sense out the window in order defend trans-people, and deny the inherent advantages trans-girls over over cisgender ones.
I'm sure there will be a time when medical science can more closely help people transition to the gender they identify as, but we're not quite there yet.
Even if gender transition could be perfectly done, it's not that simple; trans-people arrive at their decision at different ages. A person could realize they are trans at the age of 11 or at age 14; some may realize it during adulthood.
This fact complicates how closely transgender procedures can help people become the gender they identify as. A 14 year old trans-girl who gets the procedure may have already developed in ways that give her advantages over cisgender girls. Do we make separate rules based on the age of transition? Or do we let all trans-girls, no matter how recently they transitioned, compete in girls' sports? There's no clear-cut answer.
Regardless, this is a case of conservatives being right but for the wrong reasons. They're correct that trans-girls *may* have unfair advantages; this isn't always the case, though it can be. But their concern likely has nothing to do with "women's sports". It's just an excuse to bash trans people.
@kevcvs57 saidLet me enlighten you about college money. Good football teams, say Alabama. garner HUGE contributions from alumni who are nuts about football. It is true that when teams falter, alumni contributions, grants, etc go down. We are talking millions and millions here.
I’m not interested in most scholarships ALL scholarships should be given to the disadvantaged students who can make the best use of them not the ones who can kick a ball the furthest.
All scholarships should be based on the recipients academic abilities and their level of financial disadvantage. It’s not rocket science.
So you decide, but if you get your way, then while money is given out by the college for students in academia, and not for athletes, those contributions will dwindle.
@vivify saidBut ciswomens rights and opportunities are protected by all international athletic and sporting events and organisations who implement a hormone testing criteria as far as I know I’m sure there have been cases of hermaphrodite athletes who cannot qualify as ciswomen for IOC events.
You can both support transgender rights *and* acknowledge transwomen have physical advantages over cisgender women. There's nothing wrong with that.
The problem comes when conservatives use those advantages as a thinly-veiled occasion to bash transgender rights. Liberals don't need to throw common sense out the window in order defend trans-people, and deny the inherent ...[text shortened]... r concern likely has nothing to do with "women's sports". It's just an excuse to bash trans people.
This supposed issue is confined to a system whereby young athletes are picked up and exploited by wealthy colleges for monetary gain often at the cost of long term injury to the young people involved.
My point is the system that is apparently compromised by trans rights is morally compromised already by virtue of its operational / business model.
@kevcvs57 saidBecause the word "girls" was included in the thread title, I assumed this was more about high-school athletes. My post was made with that in mind, since this specific topic was brought up before. I didn't read the article.
But ciswomens rights and opportunities are protected by all international athletic and sporting events and organisations who implement a hormone testing criteria as far as I know I’m sure their have been cases of hermaphrodite athletes who cannot qualify as ciswomen for IOC events.
This supposed issue is confined to a system whereby young athletes are picked up and exploite ...[text shortened]... omised by trans rights is morally compromised already by virtue of its operational / business model.
I agree with you about adult trans-athletes who have completed the required amount of hormone therapy; though it should still be pointed out that strength differences may shrink with hormone therapy, but size differences can remain, which can still give advantages in sports like basketball or boxing (reach advantages).
@vivify saidYes your right it is about ‘girls’ American girls to be precise I’m just cynical enough to think the conservatives on here might use them as a vehicle to ride roughshod over the wider trans community.
Because the word "girls" was included in the thread title, I assumed this was more about high-school athletes. My post was made with that in mind, since this specific topic was brought up before. I didn't read the article.
I agree with you about adult trans-athletes who have completed the required amount of hormone therapy; though it should still be pointed out that str ...[text shortened]... can remain, which can still give advantages in sports like basketball or boxing (reach advantages).
And as I say I would not lose any sleep over a spanner being thrown into the machinery of the US sporting scholarship system for the reasons that I’ve mentioned.
The post that was quoted here has been removed"I agree with you about adult trans-athletes who have completed the required amount of hormone therapy"---Vivify
I'm simply acknowledging that hormone therapy doesn't necessarily make everything physically equal between cis and transwomen; if she trained as a male prior to transitioning, she could still be stronger than average females even with hormone therapy.
https://www.thefocus.news/sports/laurel-hubbard-records/
Laurel Hubbard, a transwoman who will be competing in the upcoming Olympics as a powerlifter, won gold in Australia. She also broke records after winning twice in 2017’s IWF World Weightlifting Championships.
Is it a coincidence that this record-breaking woman is also trans?
Hubbard will also be the oldest Olympic female weightlifter by *more* than four years, at the age of 46. The oldest Olympic male weightlifter? 41:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/82953896/the-quirky-side-of-the-2016-rio-olympics
Would a non-transwoman be a gold medal-winning, record-breaking Olympic powerlifter at the age of 46? I doubt it.