The post that was quoted here has been removedThe healthcare bill is premised on the Republican proposal of the 1990s. It's a giveaway to insurance companies. The Republicans, with help from Obama, killed any chance of a real health care reform, involving single payer or at least a public option. It got through Congress because Republicans allowed it through.
Originally posted by no1marauderNo, it was the Maine women and Lieberman who dictated the terms.
It certainly is since all but one Republican in the House voted against it (and none voted for the final bill) and every Republican in the Senate supported a filibuster effort.
Originally posted by KunsooAssuming Boehner's days are indeed numbered as a result of the senselessness of his proposals, who exactly would step up to fill the void?
His plan is so bad that he knows the credit rating agencies are going to slam it, but it's "beyond his control."
Not that it matters. It looks like he doesn't even have the votes from his own party.
Whatever happens, his days are numbered.
Originally posted by KunsooNo Republican senators voted for Obama's health care reform. Period.
No, it was the Maine women and Lieberman who dictated the terms.
But the universal mandate - that was a Republican idea, supported even by Orinn Hatch back in the 1990s. This was a Republican idea originally, as was Cap & Trade.
Originally posted by wittywonkaWell, the Maine women declined to filibuster, which these days is the equivalent of voting for a bill.
No Republican senators voted for Obama's health care reform. Period.
As for Lieberman, he had his own faults, and he certainly made a fuss until Democrats conceded to his demands, but he still supported the final bill. And yet, you can bet your bottom dollar that he wouldn't have supported a public option, public pressure and Democratic caucas pressu ...[text shortened]... the Republican hypocricy on their own policy platform, I don't dispute what you're saying.
Originally posted by wittywonkaAll 58 Democrats and two independents voted to break the filibuster on the bill, which Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid released Wednesday night. The Nevada Democrat took parts of proposals passed earlier this year through two congressional committees to build the sweeping $848 billion proposal.
Actually, the final vote was 60-40, anyway, wasn't it? So it wouldn't have mattered whether the cloture vote were 60-38 or 60-40.