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  1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Sep '18 20:28
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    No one is saying that it never happens.
    Read the post I was responding to.
    It is implicit.
  2. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Sep '18 20:29
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    No one has 'scoffed' at domestic violence against men.

    Men are afraid that women will laugh at them.
    Women are afraid that men will kill them.


    I thought that was glib and rather distasteful.
  3. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Sep '18 20:30
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    where is your proof concerning boys vs girls? I find it very telling none of the libs here provided any facts, just attacked the poster.
    Am I not a "lib" anymore or do you not like my facts?
  4. Zugzwang
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    30 Sep '18 20:43
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Men are afraid that women will laugh at them.
    Women are afraid that men will kill them.


    I thought that was glib and rather distasteful.
    Wolfgang59 seems ignorant that I quoted Margaret Atwood.

    ""Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
    --attributed to Margaret Atwood

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Margaret_Atwood

    Wolfgang59 also may object to her feminist novels like _The Handmaid's Tale_.
  5. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    30 Sep '18 22:38
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Wolfgang59 seems ignorant that I quoted Margaret Atwood.

    ""Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
    --attributed to Margaret Atwood

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Margaret_Atwood

    Wolfgang59 also may object to her feminist novels like _The Handmaid's Tale_.
    I didn't realise you were a plagiarist and I had not come across that quote before,
    I still think it inappropriate in the context of domestic violence on men.

    And ... Why would you think I object to feminist novels when I
    (and most that read my posts) would consider myself a feminist?
  6. SubscriberSuzianne
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    30 Sep '18 23:05
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Wolfgang59 seems ignorant that I quoted Margaret Atwood.

    ""Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."
    --attributed to Margaret Atwood

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Margaret_Atwood

    Wolfgang59 also may object to her feminist novels like _The Handmaid's Tale_.
    Yeah, I got that, even if he didn't.

    But then, I am female and read more. 😀
  7. SubscriberSuzianne
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    30 Sep '18 23:07
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    I didn't realise you were a plagiarist and I had not come across that quote before,
    I still think it inappropriate in the context of domestic violence on men.

    And ... Why would you think I object to feminist novels when I
    (and most that read my posts) would consider myself a feminist?
    Feminists do not routinely go around responding to a feminist point by saying "Yeah but..."
  8. Zugzwang
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    30 Sep '18 23:331 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    I didn't realise you were a plagiarist and I had not come across that quote before,
    I still think it inappropriate in the context of domestic violence on men.

    And ... Why would you think I object to feminist novels when I
    (and most that read my posts) would consider myself a feminist?
    "I didn't realise you were a plagiarist and I had not come across that quote before."
    --Wolfgang59

    It's common knowledge among women.
    The arrogant troll Wolfgang59 may fantasize that he knows more than women about feminism.
  9. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    01 Oct '18 02:35
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Feminists do not routinely go around responding to a feminist point by saying "Yeah but..."
    I'm a feminist and not a bigoted one.
    You need to keep that knee under control.
  10. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    01 Oct '18 02:39
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    "I didn't realise you were a plagiarist and I had not come across that quote before."
    --Wolfgang59

    It's common knowledge among women.
    The arrogant troll Wolfgang59 may fantasize that he knows more than women about feminism.
    I haven't seen the study into how many women know that quote ... I'm sorry
    I didn't (I feel so ashamed). Of course I could use your friend Google to try
    and come across as better read than I am, but that would be dishonest ...
    like plagiarising someone's words without accreditation.

    As for fantasies mine are bit more interesting and imaginative than that.
  11. Standard memberwittywonka
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    01 Oct '18 02:51
    According to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center:

    >One in five women and one in 71 men will be raped at some point in their lives.
    >In the U.S., one in three women and one in six men experienced some form of contact sexual violence in their lifetime.
    >91% of victims of rape and sexual assault are female, and nine percent are male.

    https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics

    This debate thread is a prime example of why fundamentalism--the idea that it's impossible, or unethical, to make comparisons--is so frustrating. Nobody has argued that men are not victims of sexual assault.
  12. Standard membershavixmir
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    01 Oct '18 03:15
    Here you go Mott:

    https://www.thehotline.org/resources/statistics/

    Some stats for you.
    30% of women are abused by their partners in the US.
    10% of men are abused by their partners in the US.

    15% of women have been physically injured by this violence.
    4% of men.

    So, as usual, you’re talking an amazing amount of bollocks.

    As for Margaret Atwood’s comment:
    It is fear of jest rather than death, which prohibits men from coming forward.
    And it’s not fear of jest that forces women to behave the same.

    And the figures back up her sentiment on this issue as well.
  13. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    01 Oct '18 05:31
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Men are afraid that women will laugh at them.
    Women are afraid that men will kill them.
    Men are afraid that the women they love wont love them back, women are afraid they wont be pleasing enough....

    s*** knows what world you live in ...
  14. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    01 Oct '18 05:33
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    People are beginning to realise that domestic violence isn't always the man beating the woman.

    20+ years ago I dated a police woman who headed the local domestic violence unit.
    She said she was astounded at the number of men being beaten by their wives.
    And not a single man had pressed charges.

    In the news recently a UK man died from domestic abuse.
    He suffered years of it (including his wedding day).

    It isn't something to scoff at.
    you are right my dude. Where's the balance?? Nothing like getting attacked from behind when you aren't ready. ... Its the words . They are more powerful
  15. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    01 Oct '18 05:37
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Men are afraid that women will laugh at them.
    Women are afraid that men will kill them.


    I thought that was glib and rather distasteful.
    that woman (duchess) lives in a f***ed up world where she is always the victim.

    I'd take her out of there and 'show her the world' ... but she wont let me. Catch 22? well whatever it is, it;s a sad and dreary place.. the surface is so much cleaner.
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