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Bush's Lies vs Clinton's Lies

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
I think you are correct; and I get the same headache, but not only from rednecks. Those who read their bibles, and little else, assure us that sexual crimes and lies are the worst sins imaginable. Clinton is ging to hell, where the Democratic Party will be holding its next convention. Lying about substantive policy matters is something Americans expect from our Presidents because God is on our side.
As I recall, Clinton is/was the quintessential bible-toting redneck.

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Originally posted by rwingett
When Clinton lied, no one died.
That's not quite true...18 Rangers died in Somalia
47? sailors died on the USS Cole
Many innocents lost their lives due to Clinton's inability/indecisiveness to kill Osama bin Laden: Kobhar Towers, US Embassy in Kenya, hundreds of thousands of civilians in Kosovo/Balkans....
I don't have exact "lies" as evidence, but his entire presidency was a lie as far as the military is concerned...and it was built on deceipt...and Hilary was instrumental in a lot of that deceipt....just my opinion...could be wrong...

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
That's not quite true...18 Rangers died in Somalia
47? sailors died on the USS Cole
Many innocents lost their lives due to Clinton's inability/indecisiveness to kill Osama bin Laden: Kobhar Towers, US Embassy in Kenya, hundreds of thousands of civilians in Kosovo/Balkans....
I don' ...[text shortened]... pt...and Hilary was instrumental in a lot of that deceipt....just my opinion...could be wrong...
Compare 18 and 47 to 1000. That's a big difference, no?

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Originally posted by jimmyb270
But then again, to judge from the reaction of the American voting public: Clinton's lies lost him his presidency, Bush's gained him another term.
Clinton served two full terms, the most allowed by the constitution, so his lies didnt cost him the presidency... though they probably didn't help Gore

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Originally posted by rwingett
When Clinton lied, no one died.
Better get your facts right. Thousands were killed in Serbia because as you Liberals like to say "We attacked a country without declaring war" on them. We bombed Serbians who were only defending their state of Kosova from Albanians illegally crossing their border and killing Serbs in their own country. Yes Kosova is a part of Serbia much like Texas is a part of the United States. Do you think that the US would sit idly by if 50 million Mexicans crossed over tommorrow and wanted to take over Texas? The US would send the Army just like the Serbs did.

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Originally posted by slimjim
Better get your facts right. Thousands were killed in Serbia because as you Liberals like to say "We attacked a country without declaring war" on them. We bombed Serbians who were only defending their state of Kosova from Albanians illegally crossing their border and killing Serbs in their own country. Yes Kosova is a part of Serbia much like Texas is a pa ...[text shortened]... ver tommorrow and wanted to take over Texas? The US would send the Army just like the Serbs did.
Did Clinton lie about his reasons for bombing them?

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Chancremechanic -

I don't have exact "lies" as evidence, but his entire presidency was a lie as far as the military is concerned...and it was built on deceipt...and Hilary was instrumental in a lot of that deceipt....just my opinion...could be wrong...

Please elaborate.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Did Clinton lie about his reasons for bombing them?
It sure was coincidental that he sarted bombing around the Monica Lewinsky scandal isn't it. Personally I could care less what he was doing with her. Thats between him and Hillary. He should have fessed up to it from th start.

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Originally posted by thecheat2
Compare 18 and 47 to 1000. That's a big difference, no?
Big difference to what?...I included 1000s in my post regarding Clinton if you would go back and read it again for the first time...😲

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Chancremechanic -

[b]I don't have exact "lies" as evidence, but his entire presidency was a lie as far as the military is concerned...and it was built on deceipt...and Hilary was instrumental in a lot of that deceipt....just my opinion...could be wrong...


Please elaborate.[/b]
Don't need to elaborate...the facts speak for themselves...if you look for them...

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Originally posted by Starrman
Is that a serious question? Clinton lied about his personal affairs. Bush lied about an international war scenario and as such thousands of people have died, the middle east has become unstable and I have a continuous headache from arguing with rednecks all the time! What do you think? 😞
I have to agree with Starrman. While it's understandable that a man might want to lie about his infidelity, it's totally unacceptable to force a lie on the public that has such dire consequences!

The Americans are under attack from the traitor Bush administration...

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Originally posted by slimjim
It sure was coincidental that he sarted bombing around the Monica Lewinsky scandal isn't it. Personally I could care less what he was doing with her. Thats between him and Hillary. He should have fessed up to it from th start.
But did he lie to the American people about the people he was bombing?

Thousands were killed in Serbia because as you Liberals like to say "We attacked a country without declaring war" on them.

I don't necessarily have a problem with this. Then again I'm probably not a liberal but rather a moderate. I have a problem with decieving the American people about the reasons you attack a country. It's an abuse of power.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Don't need to elaborate...the facts speak for themselves...if you look for them...
You made an accusation about Clinton lying about the military and then you refuse to back up your accusation. That's basically slander unless you say exactly how he lied. It's pathetic and manipulative and shows a severe lack of legitimacy for your claims.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You made an accusation about Clinton lying about the military and then you refuse to back up your accusation. That's basically slander unless you say exactly how he lied. It's pathetic and manipulative and shows a severe lack of legitimacy for your claims.
"Dereliction of Duty": The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Endangered America's Long-Term National Security
by Robert Patterson
There you are...read it for yourself...

I served under the bum, so I have personally felt the stigma of serving in a Clinton-led military....

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
"Dereliction of Duty": The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Endangered America's Long-Term National Security
by Robert Patterson
There you are...read it for yourself...

I served under the bum, so I have personally felt the stigma of serving in a Clinton-led military....
I know some people who have had to serve in Iraq too......and Clinton is looking better every day Bush and co. are in office.....

Say what you want to say about Clinton, it's not his party that's removing chairmanships of those supporting funding for the troops....Chris Smith is a Republican, and a pretty fari-right one at that....

FWIW, Clinton didn't do anything that hurt Gore. Bush is a lousy campaigner. Unfortunately, the Democrats made it a point to do worse. Bush didn't exactly light it up either time, but the DNC was so out to lunch they handed G.W. the White House.

To be fair, the DNC deserves just as much blame for what's going on as Bush does.....