@sonhouse saidA dictatorship can’t be communist.
@shavixmir
Well he is against the US having a democracy that is clear.
Are there any communist countries on Earth now or have there ever been such?
What keeps the leaders from just being dictators?
Communism = those who produce are in control of production.
Any form of centralised power, which isn’t controlled by the producing classes is not communism. Even if Stalin said so.
@shavixmir
And he should know🙂
Is it true a real communist country owns everything, your house, car, whatever?
@sonhouse saidNo.
@shavixmir
And he should know🙂
Is it true a real communist country owns everything, your house, car, whatever?
Nobody really owns anything.
The proletariate (the people) decide how they want things and the government (the executive) has to make sure it happens.
Generally, what you would get is that there is a pool of housing. Out of that pool, you get a house. And you can live in it, nobody else is allowed in it, etc.
Exactly like now. Except now you own a bank money; under communism, you don’t own anybody money. You just have a house to live in. So, if you become jobless (basically not possible in communism) or ill, nobody can foreclose you and boot you out of your house.
Same with cars, gardens, etc.
Think of it as a pool of money from which various pools of commodities are created. And each person can get what they need.. and want…
Naturally, looking at the current set up, it sounds like a fantasy. Something from, say, Star Trek. Which is basically a communist society of sorts.
So, no, the country doesn’t own everything, the people do. The country is rsponsible for executing the will of the people.
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@shavixmir
Is or has there ever been a true communist country?
And in this hypothetical communist country, what is to stop someone from taking over and making it into a dictatorship?
Is that form of government as fragile as democracies around the world are today?
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@sonhouse saidNot really.
@shavixmir
Is or has there ever been a true communist country?
The kibbutz in Israel is a socialist principle and worked quite well until they started investing in the stockmarket (utter madness), but that’s not a country, but micro systems within a country.
Many socialist / communist practises have been adopted in many countries (health service, minimum wage, education for all, etc.).
The essence, though, is that communism isn’t an alternative to capitalism, it’s what capitalism evolves into (friction between the producing classes and the owning classes). And places like China, Russia and Cuba never had a functioning capitalist society to evolve from.
So the version of communism that was adopted in those places had no fundaments within society to grow on. And it’s plain what happened there.
@sonhouse saidThis is basically about where power should lie.
@shavixmir
And in this hypothetical communist country, what is to stop someone from taking over and making it into a dictatorship?
Is that form of government as fragile as democracies around the world are today?
We’re used to the executive having powers and being held accountable by the parliamentary chambers.
It could work like that, however, generally, you want the parliamentary chambers wielding the power and holding the executive to account if they don’t achieve what parliament tells them to.
And emergency powers? Obviously this has to be possible, but it has to be limited in time and scope.
@Metal-Brain saidWhy do you INSIST on being stupid?
@mchill
That is because Kamala is a right wing corporatism democrat. She supports corporate welfare. In other words, she is a fascist in democrat clothing.
@AverageJoe1 saidAnd we're tired of hearing that boring story.
Actually, I am not, as I have said. I don’t like him. I don’t like my doctor, either, but he is a great doctor.
You fellows need to pick it up a notch. “You are sounding like Suzianne “”, to quote a phrase.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidWould you rather we raise it back to 90% like FDR did?
the same businesses that harris is going to raise taxes out the roof on?
you idiots are unbelievable
You idiots are so precious.
@mchill saidMaybe they can now lower their prices to match the low inflation.
Wall Street business leaders, normally a right leaning group are now solidly backing Kamala Harris for President.
Eighty-eight corporate leaders signed a new letter Friday endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for president. Signers include former 21st Century Fox CEO James Murdoch, Snap chairman Michael Lynton, Yelp boss Jeremy Stoppelman, Ripple co-founder Chris Larsen, ...[text shortened]... ort/88-corporate-leaders-endorse-harris-in-new-letter-including-ceos-of-yelp-box-and-ripple/3541226/
Naw, what am I thinking?
@vivify saidOh, but they'll LOVE that because it comes from their demented god.
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According to AvJoe, Trump wants 10 percent tariffs (which is a tax) on all imports. If he's correct, that will make businesses lose money. This will increase the price of products for consumers.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidSee, Vivify?
Trump used tariffs last time, no ill effects for the US…actually brought our steel industry back.
And no, tariffs are not like taxes. It’s up to the seller if they want to pay.
You libs cant think for yourselves, you rely on the media and they mislead you
@sonhouse saidCommunism tends towards dictators.
@shavixmir
Well he is against the US having a democracy that is clear.
Are there any communist countries on Earth now or have there ever been such?
What keeps the leaders from just being dictators?
Every communist country has followed that path of least resistance. All that ends up doing is replacing the ousted elites with a new crop of elites. USSR, China, Cuba. Add in North Korea if you feel generous.