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@vivify said
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/trumps-steel-industry-claims/
https://prosperousamerica.org/how-steel-tariffs-are-helping-us-workers/

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@vivify said
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-03-16/supply-chain-latest-us-importers-bore-cost-of-trump-s-china-tariffs-itc-says

Trump's tariffs cost businesses $300 billion.
yet you are the same person that claims harris 28% tax rate on corporations won’t affect the consumer.

seems you want it both ways


@Mott-The-Hoople said
yet you are the same person that claims harris 28% tax rate on corporations won’t affect the consumer.

seems you want it both ways
When have I ever said that, kiddo? I'm sure you have a post from me to back that up, right?


@vivify said
When have I ever said that, kiddo? I'm sure you have a post from me to back that up, right?
do you support the harris tax hike on corporations?

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@sonhouse said
@Suzianne
https://carnegieendowment.org/china-financial-markets/2021/01/how-trumps-tariffs-really-affected-the-us-job-market?lang=en

This is what happened when Trump did the tariff last time.
Yep, that's how we know what would happen now. Like anything else, it will only get worse until we shut him off from his goals. Voting for Kamala seems the only way to do that.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
yet you are the same person that claims harris 28% tax rate on corporations won’t affect the consumer.

seems you want it both ways
Forget what Trump tells you.

He lies to get you to support his outrageous plans for America.

He doesn't give a damn for anyone, except himself.

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@shavixmir said
A dictatorship can’t be communist.
Communism = those who produce are in control of production.

Any form of centralised power, which isn’t controlled by the producing classes is not communism. Even if Stalin said so.
Real communism, though, does require a strong, unselfish leader who is in it for the people, not himself. That's how communism gets bastardized.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
do you support the harris tax hike on corporations?
No idea, this is the first I'm hearing of it.

Who is the target of these tax hikes? Do they include small businesses or are they aimed at billionaires? If the latter, I have no problem.

Trump's tariffs impacted all imports, whether from large or small businesses.


@shavixmir said
No.
Nobody really owns anything.

The proletariate (the people) decide how they want things and the government (the executive) has to make sure it happens.

Generally, what you would get is that there is a pool of housing. Out of that pool, you get a house. And you can live in it, nobody else is allowed in it, etc.
Exactly like now. Except now you own a bank money; u ...[text shortened]... esn’t own everything, the people do. The country is rsponsible for executing the will of the people.
Except like Lennon said, it requires the abolishment of money.

The perfect society, like in Star Trek, centers around what each citizen adds to society, and that becomes his or her currency.


@Suzianne said
Real communism, though, does require a strong, unselfish leader who is in it for the people, not himself. That's how communism gets bastardized.
No, it doesn’t.
It’s not a personality cult.

Real communism is the exact opposite. The group is responsible for decision making, not some individual, no matter how benevolent he may seem.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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@shavixmir said
No, it doesn’t.
It’s not a personality cult.

Real communism is the exact opposite. The group is responsible for decision making, not some individual, no matter how benevolent he may seem.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Every country needs a leader, even if they are just a spokesman (or woman).

An unselfish leader would abide by the group's decision.

Having a selfish leader leads to the false communism personality cult you speak of.

But yes, this is how communism is corrupted. It may never work in reality, no matter how well meant. Perhaps an unselfish leader would also result in a switch to democracy, turning it into non-communism yet again.

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@shavixmir said
She is not a fascist, dumb arse.
You don't know what a fascist is. You think it is the killing of Jews.

Big Business supports Kamala because she is a closet right winger. Everyone knows big business prefers right wing economic policies.


@Metal-Brain
He knows exactly what a fascist is, it is Donald Trump.
A person seeking power above all else. By any means, in a democracy, sow chaos, spread lies, accept help from Russia or Iran, deny the loss when he loses, even though he admitted it on TV, 'I lost by a 'whisker' so he knows full well he lost but uses it to dupe his unfortunate base where they think he is 100% honest when he in fact is 100% liar.


@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
He knows exactly what a fascist is, it is Donald Trump.
A person seeking power above all else. By any means, in a democracy, sow chaos, spread lies, accept help from Russia or Iran, deny the loss when he loses, even though he admitted it on TV, 'I lost by a 'whisker' so he knows full well he lost but uses it to dupe his unfortunate base where they think he is 100% honest when he in fact is 100% liar.
Trump is not in the censorship party like you are.


@Metal-Brain
Censorship. Right. I censor everything, Trump sensors nothing. Got it.