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We all know that the U.S. imposed illegal tariffs on the Canadian lumber, an American court has already proved it, so why do the Americans continue to deny the allegation?

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Originally posted by prosoccer
We all know that the U.S. imposed illegal tariffs on the Canadian lumber, an American court has already proved it, so why do the Americans continue to deny the allegation?
Most Americans don't know that there is a tariff issue with Canadian lumber. In fact, most Americans don't know what a tariff is.

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and yet the macedonians do. lol

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Originally posted by prosoccer
and yet the macedonians do. lol
Naw , they don't care about it either. They just burnin wood to stay warm. They don't care about tariffs. They just tryin to keep their ass from freezin.

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sounds like Canada, way back when we had softwood lumber to burn

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Originally posted by prosoccer
We all know that the U.S. imposed illegal tariffs on the Canadian lumber, an American court has already proved it, so why do the Americans continue to deny the allegation?
Because Americe believes in free trade - only when they are exporting. They have lost case after case at the WTO for illegal and unfair trade actions, yet they still claim they are champions of free trade. I think the term for this is hypocrisy.

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Originally posted by steerpike
Because Americe believes in free trade - only when they are exporting. They have lost case after case at the WTO for illegal and unfair trade actions, yet they still claim they are champions of free trade. I think the term for this is hypocrisy.
Oh, yeah?...look at the trade surplus China has with the U.S.....your words taste good don't they?

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Originally posted by steerpike
Because Americe believes in free trade - only when they are exporting. They have lost case after case at the WTO for illegal and unfair trade actions, yet they still claim they are champions of free trade. I think the term for this is hypocrisy.
I live in Wyoming USA, and work in construction, and 80% of our lumber comes from Canada,

I have some friends in upper NewYork whos in construction who told me that 99% percent of their lumber comes from Canada

Are you wanting more inports, and less exports?

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Originally posted by flyUnity
I live in Wyoming USA, and work in construction, and 80% of our lumber comes from Canada,

I have some friends in upper NewYork whos in construction who told me that 99% percent of their lumber comes from Canada

Are you wanting more inports, and less exports?
Some of the history of the softwood lumber dispute can be found at:

http://economics.about.com/cs/agriculture/a/softwood_lumber_2.htm


Briefly, in 1986 the US government and producers were upset that Canadian (CA) lumber producers were able to charge lower prices than US producers. This price difference was partly due to differences between US and CA logging rules. It was agreed that the differences in the rules were in effect a subsidy, and that to compensate the US would charge a 15% import tax (tariff) on CA softwood lumber.

In 1991, the CA government terminated the agreement because they said there were no more subsidies. The US government disagreed, and placed a 6.5% import tax on CA softwood lumber. A panel appointed under the Free Trade Agreement sided with the CA government.

In 1996, the CA and US government entered into a new agreement. The CA government agreed to charge an export tax on lumber in excess of 14.7 million board feet.

In 2001, the agreement expired, and the US Department of Commerce studied the issue and imposed a 19% import tax on CA lumber. Then the US government imposed a further 12.5% tax. (http://money.cnn.com/2002/03/22/news/lumber_tariffs/)

The most recent info I could find on the dispute is at http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/softwood_lumber/

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It's a well known fact that Canadian wood is bigger and harder than American wood,
Hence, jealousy and tariffs.

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Originally posted by KneverKnight
It's a well known fact that Canadian wood is bigger and harder than American wood,
Hence, jealousy and tariffs.
Actually, you have the exchange rate backwards. It takes more wood in Canada (1.16) to get the job done, than it does in US (1).

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Originally posted by richjohnson
Some of the history of the softwood lumber dispute can be found at:

http://economics.about.com/cs/agriculture/a/softwood_lumber_2.htm


Briefly, in 1986 the US government and producers were upset that Canadian (CA) lumber producers were able to charge lower prices than US producers. This price difference was partly due to differences between US an ...[text shortened]... recent info I could find on the dispute is at http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/softwood_lumber/
So the american gov is saying the price of canadian wood needs to
be jacked up by one third to make it the same as what we would
produce the same wood for, pricewise?
I think that is called gouging but by an official government mafia.

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