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  1. 20 Jun '13 00:51 / 1 edit
    Cardinals coach: Fans are reason why gay player wouldn’t be accepted in league

    An NFL coach blames you, the fan, for a gay player not being accepted in the NFL — not other players.

    “I don’t think the locker room would have any problem with it,” Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians told Foxsports.com in this story. “The problem would be the fans. I think especially opposing fans.

    “Some of the things that are said are over the top and out of control that I can imagine what some fans would say to an openly gay player.”

    Last week, the NFLPA announced that a group of its members were putting their names and jersey numbers on t-shirts supporting LGBT Pride Month, the proceeds of which would benefit Athlete Ally. Former Texans Eric Winston and Connor Barwin were among them.

    Shortly after their initial release, Texans running back Arian Foster added his name to the list.

    This coach couldn't be more right. Most sports fans are loud mouth bigots (e.g., Sasquatch) and would never accept an openly gay player. The good thing is, the fans will be forced to accept it. In sports, and in society, too.
  2. 20 Jun '13 00:53
    Here is the link.

    http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/06/cardinals-coach-fans-are-reason-why-gay-player-wouldnt-be-accepted-in-league/
  3. 20 Jun '13 02:41
    Originally posted by moon1969
    [quote][b]Cardinals coach: Fans are reason why gay player wouldn’t be accepted in league

    An NFL coach blames you, the fan, for a gay player not being accepted in the NFL — not other players.

    “I don’t think the locker room would have any problem with it,” Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians told Foxsports.com in this story. “The problem would ...[text shortened]... layer. The good thing is, the fans will be forced to accept it. In sports, and in society, too.[/b]
    I disagree. Sports fans are probably more diverse than you think.

    The thing is, even if a sports fan doesn't accept a player then I think only a small minority will start supporting a different team if a couple players on the team are gay. They just won't buy a jersey with that number. So what?
  4. 20 Jun '13 02:47
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Most sports fans are loud mouth bigots...
    Absolutely astounding...

    Just shows how those on the left are completely incapable of self reflection. By definition of bigotry, this is a prime example.

    Yet it in no way proves nor even makes a compelling case that sports fans are bigots.
  5. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    20 Jun '13 03:28 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by techsouth
    Absolutely astounding...

    Just shows how those on the left are completely incapable of self reflection. By definition of bigotry, this is a prime example.

    Yet it in no way proves nor even makes a compelling case that sports fans are bigots.
    I regret that I have but one thumb to give for your post.
  6. 20 Jun '13 03:46
    Originally posted by moon1969
    [quote][b]Cardinals coach: Fans are reason why gay player wouldn’t be accepted in league

    An NFL coach blames you, the fan, for a gay player not being accepted in the NFL — not other players.

    “I don’t think the locker room would have any problem with it,” Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians told Foxsports.com in this story. “The problem would ...[text shortened]... layer. The good thing is, the fans will be forced to accept it. In sports, and in society, too.[/b]
    I usually agree with you, but stereotyping sports fans, not cool.

    no1marauder and I are just two examples of sports fans who aren't loud mouth bigots. no1 is a loud mouth non-bigot.
  7. 20 Jun '13 14:13
    Originally posted by techsouth
    Absolutely astounding...

    Just shows how those on the left are completely incapable of self reflection. By definition of bigotry, this is a prime example.

    Yet it in no way proves nor even makes a compelling case that sports fans are bigots.
    Funny. Complaining about the stereotyping of one group while stereotyping another.
  8. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    20 Jun '13 14:17
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    Funny. Complaining about the stereotyping of one group while stereotyping another.
    I don't think I'd call attributing a position to people who subscribe to a particular political ideology "bigotry," which is what Techsouth was complaining of.
  9. 20 Jun '13 14:19 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by sh76
    I don't think I'd call attributing a position to people who subscribe to a particular political ideology "bigotry," which is what Techsouth was complaining of.
    Techsouth was complaining about the stereotyping of sports fans as a type of bigotry. No, he didn't use those words but that is what the OP did do and techsouth was right to point that out, but then stereotyping another group is hypocritical at best.

    Techsouth didn't even attribute a position to a particular political ideology - he attributed a character trait to everyone in a vast diverse swath of political ideology.

    "the left" is not a specific particular ideology and I would say neither is "the right".

    What he did was nothing different than saying "Those on the right are idiots"
  10. 20 Jun '13 16:02
    It was actually a parody but lost of all of you. A paraphrasing of an out-there sarcastic comment to the article (go to the link and scroll down to the comments section to see it).

    Yet, I stand corrected. Let me rephrase.

    This coach couldn't be more right. Some sports fans are loud mouth bigots (e.g., Sasquatch) and would never accept an openly gay player. The good thing is, the fans will be forced to accept it. In sports, and in society, too.

    Better?
  11. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    20 Jun '13 16:06
    Originally posted by moon1969
    [quote][b]Cardinals coach: Fans are reason why gay player wouldn’t be accepted in league

    An NFL coach blames you, the fan, for a gay player not being accepted in the NFL — not other players.

    “I don’t think the locker room would have any problem with it,” Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians told Foxsports.com in this story. “The problem would ...[text shortened]... layer. The good thing is, the fans will be forced to accept it. In sports, and in society, too.[/b]
    This may be true, however an ounce of common sense would tell anyone that a gay player would be well advised to keep his sexual orientation to himself while on a professional sports team.
  12. 20 Jun '13 16:13 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by bill718
    This may be true, however an ounce of common sense would tell anyone that a gay player would be well advised to keep his sexual orientation to himself while on a professional sports team.
    That has been the advice for gays in sports and in society generally. Hide your gayness. At all cost, do not let it be known that you are gay.

    With regard to the NFL, in our lifetime, there will be a player not hide his gayness. The Cardinals coach assertion is that the fans (not fellow players) will be the problem. Thoughts?
  13. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    20 Jun '13 16:14
    Originally posted by moon1969
    That has been the advice for gays in sports and in society generally.

    With regard to the NFL, in our lifetime, there will be a player not hide his gayness. The Cardinals coach assertion is that it will the fans would be the problem and not other players. Thoughts?
    I think the jury is still out on that point.
  14. Standard member sasquatch672
    Don't Like It Leave
    20 Jun '13 16:34
    Originally posted by moon1969
    [quote][b]Cardinals coach: Fans are reason why gay player wouldn’t be accepted in league

    An NFL coach blames you, the fan, for a gay player not being accepted in the NFL — not other players.

    “I don’t think the locker room would have any problem with it,” Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians told Foxsports.com in this story. “The problem would ...[text shortened]... layer. The good thing is, the fans will be forced to accept it. In sports, and in society, too.[/b]
    OK. Listen here. I don't care if you insult me. But if you're going to take me on, then at least do it with some style. The Number One Sin of public postings is a failure to entertain. Now, when you voiced your violent, homoerotic revenge fantasies about me (the thread was removed, but I think it ran along the lines of the performance of a sex act followed by a beheading - only the truly unhinged could have thought of that), that was entertaining. It was funny. I just wish I could have seen you post it - fists balled, pounding your desk, veins popping out of your neck, coming dangerously close to stroking out, then having to take a break and go outside to recover yourself, grateful in a way for the forum ban, it made you try to think about something else for a few days.

    But however true this latest characterization of me is - and it's debatably so - it's just not funny. There's no style, no flair, nothing approaching memorable. You were memorable before. I think that incident damaged you. It changed you, somehow, into something very every day. You could have branded your unique combination of breathless, passive-aggressive, latently gay rage back then. This? Blue-light special, baby. Get back to work.
  15. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    21 Jun '13 01:11
    Originally posted by moon1969
    With regard to the NFL, in our lifetime, there will be a player not hide his gayness. The Cardinals coach assertion is that the fans (not fellow players) will be the problem. Thoughts?
    You're not exactly going out on a limb there. An NBA player already came out. I'd be surprised if we don't see an outed NFL player in the next 12 months.