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Chess prodigy arrested over WhatsApp chat

Chess prodigy arrested over WhatsApp chat

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WhatsApp is private and encrypted right? Same as encrochat. Guy shouldn't have said what he did joking about being Taliban etc but was the decision to prosecute correct though?

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@congruent said
WhatsApp is private and encrypted right? Same as encrochat. Guy shouldn't have said what he did joking about being Taliban etc but was the decision to prosecute correct though?
Source?

I don't understand what this is about at all

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@ponderable said
Source?

I don't understand what this is about at all
I would like to see it as well.

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25499488/aditya-verma-cleared-terrorist-joke-plane/

A BRITISH former child chess prodigy who told his friends he was a Taliban and going to blow up a holiday plane has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

University student Aditya Verma, 20, admitted saying to his pals: “On my way to blow up the plane. I’m a member of the Taliban,” at his one-day trial in Madrid on Monday.

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@congruent said
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/25499488/aditya-verma-cleared-terrorist-joke-plane/

A BRITISH former child chess prodigy who told his friends he was a Taliban and going to blow up a holiday plane has been cleared of any wrongdoing.

University student Aditya Verma, 20, admitted saying to his pals: “On my way to blow up the plane. I’m a member of the Taliban,” at his one-day trial in Madrid on Monday.
Just goes to show chess skills are a very poor barometer of intelligence
If you do not want to get arrested don’t pretend that you’re going to blow up a plane, he should have been convicted of wasting police time at the very least.
Taliban choice was based on ignorance given that they re not an international terrorist organisation.

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Shouldn't have gone to court though as the case was based on the prosecution assumption that someone in the outside world could have seen the message. When I first read about the case I thought he had sent the text to someone who then alerted the authorities but it was picked up from a private chat not a public one.

If the text was sent in the UK then didn't the crime occur in the UKL not Spain?

Spain has some of the toughest privacy laws I thought the legal defence would have used those in their defence but this is the trouble with reading sensationalist newspaper accounts. The defence had the correct view that this was a kid messing about in a private group without expectation of causing harm outside.

Still a silly thing for the boy look at how much trouble he has landed in, who is laughing now if this was meant to be a joke?

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It is strange that an encrypted message was intercepted. Or was it leaked by the receiver?

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@shavixmir said
It is strange that an encrypted message was intercepted. Or was it leaked by the receiver?
I’m guessing it was leaked and why wouldn’t you if someone threatened to blow up a plane, he might have been talking to an intelligence officer how would he know, the guys a halfwit.
It’s reminiscent of the yank that was bragging on a private chat about his anti government activities, it turns out he was being very serious. Moral of the story, don’t trust ‘friends’ on the internet.

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I’m guessing it was leaked and why wouldn’t you if someone threatened to blow up a plane, he might have been talking to an intelligence officer how would he know, the guys a halfwit.
It’s reminiscent of the yank that was bragging on a private chat about his anti government activities, it turns out he was being very serious. Moral of the story, don’t trust ‘friends’ on the internet.
If it was leaked by the receiver… fine by me.

If it was intercepted, then there are orher issues which seem inherently illegal.

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Data passing over a public Wi-Fi network is often unencrypted. A man-in-the-middle attack is possible as intercepts the data travelling between your device and the Wi-Fi router. This makes it possible to steal confidential information, such as passwords or credit card details.

Heard of Encrochat? It was supposedly encrytped.

EncroChat was a Europe-based communications network and service provider that offered modified smartphones allowing encrypted communication among subscribers. It was used primarily by organized crime members to plan criminal activities.

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@congruent said
WhatsApp is private and encrypted right? Same as encrochat. Guy shouldn't have said what he did joking about being Taliban etc but was the decision to prosecute correct though?
Guy shouldn't have said what he did joking about being Taliban etc but was the decision to prosecute correct though?

From a legal standpoint this is a grey area. We can't always rely on the criminal justice system to protect us from sheer stupidity. Terrorism is not a laughing matter. At the very least he should be fined for the money it cost to locate and investigate and him.

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@shavixmir said
If it was leaked by the receiver… fine by me.

If it was intercepted, then there are orher issues which seem inherently illegal.
I think it would have been a bigger story if an encrypted message system had been hacked by law enforce, I think it’s owned by Facebook now so maybe they’ve sold the information to the FBI.

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@kevcvs57 said
I think it would have been a bigger story if an encrypted message system had been hacked by law enforce, I think it’s owned by Facebook now so maybe they’ve sold the information to the FBI.
The encrypted messages can’t be sold, only the meta-data (or so I’m told).
And law enforcement needs a warrant to hack into messaging.
What are the chances of this guy being tagged before cracking a joke (od sorts)?

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Law enforcement don't need a warrant, which warrant was given to hack into Encrochat? Or which warrant was given when someone was murdered in an embassy and all of that was observed?
Also the Judge did not task the prosecution to provide information on how they got the message and a picture (supposedly from an encrypted private chat).
Ever seen enemy of the State? Though fictional, security services don't just eat donuts and coffee. Ordinary Joe is usually not on their radar🙂

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