@wajoma saidLordy. Saints alive. You have zero reading comprehension. Whatsoever.
You posted stats for people killed by air pollution which did not single out coal fired power stations as being the cause or even coal alone, there are many sources for air pollution.
"...toll exacted by coal pollution."
I'm not sure what gymnastics are supposed to be performed. Coal is a cheap abundant energy source, modern coal fired power stations can operate cleanl ...[text shortened]... you'd like to attribute 750 000 deaths to them.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
I never said China's coal plants are "clean," rather only stated the fact that they are cleaner, on average, than US coal plants. All coal plants are filthy.
You still awake there? I'll keep the paragraphs real short, I promise.
Where did I say all those 750,000 deaths are a result of coal?
Real...
Short...
Paragraphs.
I'm giving you a breather. Breathe now. Preferably not in the vicinity of a coal-fired plant, however. Oxygen fuels the brain.
Ready to keep going?
Up until recently China produced 80 percent of its electricity from coal, though that has rapidly decreased to about 65 percent in recent years. But coal IS filthy, and if you...
Ah, sorry, that paragraph was getting too long. Breathe!
...if you bothered to read and absorb the whole snippet that mentioned the 750,000 deaths per year in my earlier post, you'd mayhap discern that coal plants are an issue. It's only...
...it's only a snippet. You should read more on the matter. Pollutants from coal combustion are distinctive, so people called scientists and health officials can ascertain, with statistics and data, the degree to which coal is impacting the well-being of human populations.
Cars are another big source of pollution in China, as everywhere else in the world. Be sure of that.
I remember in southern California how the smog used to hang heavy on the horizon for much of the year. Smog alerts were not uncommon.
Then the state government instituted smog checks on cars, as well as efficiency standards and a whole host of other regulations. The smog problem improved significantly, and smog alerts became extremely...
...rare.
You won't like that story. You hate all "goobermint." You think everyone should just be allowed to do whatever and the rest of society be damned.
But facts are facts. Your "alternative facts" are no more factual than Trump's.
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@wolfgang59 saidPerhaps Wajomaland has not yet invented the battery...?
If you think the grid stops when the wind stops blowing you are as dumb as Trump.
It always seems lost on the fossil fuel shills that the key to using renewable energy sources is to have a mix of them. Wind, solar, geothermal, etc.
@kazetnagorra saidLook in a mirror. You have no proof and you have only a minority consensus, not a majority consensus.
Not nearly enough, I'm afraid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/science/sea-level-rise.179816/page-29
The climate has been warming since the end of the little ice age from natural causes. Man's recent influence is negligible.
@whodey saidThis may or may not be true. "They" also said that acid rain would turn the Great Lakes into vinegar by 2000 some decade or so before that. Wanna' assume their expertise as making their predictions absolute? I won't.
There is climate change and we are all going to die!
Those are facts, not opinions sir.
Why then do you deny reality? I know I tried years ago but it does not seem to work.
The last ice age darn near wiped out - as an example, the paleo Indians of North America. We get it. Climate change happens.
And when it does, there is nothing you can do about it (possibly)
Meanwhile, climate change scare mongers like Al Gore make a fortune on it. Follow the $$$!