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@athousandyoung saidGood point also, don't forget it works both ways, when No1 Miss Representor posts stats we just say , "There are other variables than vaccination, so no."
Yes you did.Every country above the average should have a below average vax rate. Every country below that line should have high seizure syrup rates.
Your source says China has a death rate of 4 per million. Do you really believe that?
@wajoma saidWhich country are you referring to?
The reason I ask is that there is a country with a great distrust of the seizure syrup with an uptake of less than 5%.
@no1marauder saidThere are a number of countries with high vax rates that also have higher than average wuflu death rates but it seems we've abandoned stats when they don't go your way.
That's nonsense. Since you're including deaths from BEFORE the majority of vaccinations occurred, it would make sense that a country experiencing a high death rate would be more likely to push to get its people vaccinated. That's exactly what Chile did and it managed to cut the COVID death rate by more than half.
"There are other variables than vaccination, so no."
@athousandyoung saidPeru has a high vax rate too.
There are other variables than vaccination so no, your expectation about perfect correlation between vax rates and death rates is not reasonable.
Peru, a neighboring country to Chile, has twice the death rate as Chile - the worst in the world. That probably doesn't help Chile's numbers.
Where are you getting your vaccination percentages from? They aren't on the link you provided.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
From the 2019 SEC filing from BioNTech page 16:
"Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. Unlike certain gene therapies that irreversibly alter cell DNA and may cause certain side effects, mRNA-based medicines are designed not to irreversibly change cell DNA. Side effects observed in other gene therapies, however, could negatively impact the perception of immunotherapies despite the differences in mechanism. In addition, because no mRNA-based product has been approved, the regulatory pathway in the United States and may other jurisdictions for approval is uncertain."
https://investors.biontech.de/node/7381/html
“It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled.
No man's life,liberty, and property are
safe while the legislature is in session.”
― Mark Twain
@metal-brain said" Israel got an early start on its vaccination campaign on Dec. 20 and rapidly outpaced virtually every other nation in getting jabs into arms — and now in giving booster shots to nearly half of its eligible population. But today, with hesitancy remaining among Arab, Orthodox Jewish and younger Israelis, the country reports that just 63 percent of its population is fully vaccinated, less than South Korea, Italy and some 40 other countries."
How can Israel go from being the most vaccinated nation in the world to falling behind the US?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/24/world/united-states-israel-vaccination-rates.html
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@no1marauder saidYou'd think if they were getting good results that the population would turn to the clotshot rather than away from it. Perhaps they witnessed something first hand with friends and neighbors that caused then to have second thoughts.
" Israel got an early start on its vaccination campaign on Dec. 20 and rapidly outpaced virtually every other nation in getting jabs into arms — and now in giving booster shots to nearly half of its eligible population. But today, with hesitancy remaining among Arab, Orthodox Jewish and younger Israelis, the country reports that just 63 percent of its population is fully ...[text shortened]... countries."
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/24/world/united-states-israel-vaccination-rates.html
Edit: Italy was another hard and early seizure syrup country, what caused them to stall.
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@wajoma saidBasically, the same story as Chile but even more so, the vast majority of COVID deaths occurred before any major portion of the population had been vaccinated: as of June 1st, 2021 it had had more than 180,000 deaths and only 4% of its population had been vaccinated.
Peru has a high vax rate too.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53150808
Since the end of 2021 when the vaccination rate has been pushed up, it has had only about 17,000 COVID deaths in 15 months or about 1100 a month compared t0 202,000 from March 2020 to the end of December 2021 0r more than 9,000 a month. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/peru/
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@no1marauder saidNot one person has achieved natural immunity in Peru and Chile it's all the clot shot, hail to the majic potion.
Basically, the same story as Chile, the vast majority of COVID deaths occurred before any major portion of the population had been vaccinated: as of June 1st, 2021 it had had more than 180,000 deaths and only 4% of its population had been vaccinated.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53150808
Since the end of 2021 when the vaccination rate has been pushe ...[text shortened]... onth compared t0 202,000 from March 2020 to the end end of December 2021 0r more than 9,000 a month.
@wajoma saidPerhaps idiots like yourself have helped create the problem by your unceasing misinformation and disinformation campaigns against vaccination.
You'd think if they were getting good results that the population would turn to the clotshot rather than away from it. Perhaps they witnessed something first hand with friends and neighbors that caused then to have second thoughts.
Edit: Italy was another hard and early seizure syrup country, what caused them to stall.
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@no1marauder saidYes a great many Peruvians and Chileans read this message board, they don't comment, but they're watching and listening
Perhaps idiots like yourself have helped create the problem by your unceasing misinformation and disinformation campaigns against vaccination.
They use google translate.
For me I started out fairly 50:50 on the seizure syrup, I was considering it, then in NZ the goobermint bullying began, then after that I heard stories first and secondhand of injuries and worse, then I saw how the press and goobermint were the greatest sauce of mis-information.
@wajoma saidYou really do turn into a pathetic moron when the stats shoot down your pathetic misinformation.
Not one person has achieved natural immunity in Peru and Chile it's all the clot shot, hail to the majic potion.
Sure, it's just a coincidence that COVID death rates in these countries plummeted after the vaccination rate rose above 70-75% levels.
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@no1marauder saidWuflu deaths went down in every country regardless of the seizure syrup.
You really do turn into a pathetic moron when the stats shoot down your pathetic misinformation.
Sure, it's just a coincidence that COVID death rates in these countries plummeted after the vaccination rate rose above 70-75% levels.
"There are other variables than vaccination, so no."
If anything this little exercise has shown how you distort and twist stats to suit you, and ignore others. Our rights are too important to abandon to stats that have seen the greatest transfer of wealth to mega drug corporations in the history of the world, and how that amount of money corrupts everything it touches.
@no1marauder saidDo you deny natural immunity?
Basically, the same story as Chile but even more so, the vast majority of COVID deaths occurred before any major portion of the population had been vaccinated: as of June 1st, 2021 it had had more than 180,000 deaths and only 4% of its population had been vaccinated.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53150808
Since the end of 2021 when the vaccination ra ...[text shortened]... of December 2021 0r more than 9,000 a month. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/peru/
How much of the downturn are you prepared to attribute to natural immunity?
Who's butt did you pull these conclusions from?