Damn what a culture

@mott-the-hoople said
no, that is what you do. You think it is taboo to point out things that is common to a certain culture. Rap star killings is another thing unique to this culture. It just so happens that another thing in common is race. But you think there are no races so I really dont see your point.

how is your reevaluation going?

From Merriam-Webster:

Culture - The customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious or social group.

Aberrant behavior like shooting into a crowd or killing rap singers is no more a part of US Black culture than murder and cannibalism is a part of US White culture because Jeffrey Dahmer did it.

@no1marauder said
From Merriam-Webster:

Culture - The customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious or social group.

Aberrant behavior like shooting into a crowd or killing rap singers is no more a part of US Black culture than murder and cannibalism is a part of US White culture because Jeffrey Dahmer did it.

childlike response...you listONE person...


check out this list...it fits the very meaning of "culture"

https://raptology.com/list-of-murdered-hip-hop-musicians/




List of murdered hip hop musicians

The following is a list of notable hip hop musicians who have been murdered.

A 2015 study concluded that murder was the cause of 51.5% of U.S. hip hop musician deaths.[1] The study noted that this figure refers primarily to premature deaths as most hip hop musicians have not yet lived long enough to fall into the highest-risk ages for heart- and liver-related illnesses.
NameDate of deathAge Location of deathCause of deathRef.
Scott La RockAugust 27, 198725New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[2]
Paul CJuly 17, 198924New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[3]
D-Boy RodriguezOctober 6, 199022Dallas, Texas, U.S.Shot and killed[4][5]
CharizmaDecember 16, 199320Milpitas, California, U.S.Shot and killed[6][7]
StretchNovember 30, 199527New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[8]
SeagramJuly 31, 199626Oakland, California, U.S.Shot and killed[9][10]
Tupac ShakurSeptember 13, 199625Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.Shot and killed[11][12][13]
Yaki KadafiNovember 10, 199619Orange, New Jersey, U.S.Shot and killed[14]
The Notorious B.I.G.March 9, 199724Los Angeles, California, U.S.Shot and killed[15][16][17]
Fat PatFebruary 3, 199827Houston, Texas, U.S.Shot and killed[18][19]
Big LFebruary 15, 199924New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[20][21][22]
Freaky TahMarch 28, 199927New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[23]
BugzMay 21, 199921Grand Rapids, Michigan, U.S.Shot and run over[24]
DJ Uncle AlSeptember 10, 200132Miami, Florida, U.S.Shot and killed[25][26]
Jam Master JayOctober 30, 200237New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[27]
SabotageJanuary 24, 200329São Paulo, São Paulo, BrazilShot and killed[28][29]
CamoflaugeMay 19, 200321Savannah, Georgia, U.S.Shot and killed[30]
Half a MillOctober 24, 200330New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[31]
Soulja SlimNovember 26, 200326New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.Shot and killed[32][33]
Mac DreNovember 1, 200434Kansas City, Missouri, U.S.Shot and killed[34]
Blade IcewoodApril 19, 200528Detroit, Michigan, U.S.Shot and killed[35]
ProofApril 11, 200632Detroit, Michigan, U.S.Shot and killed[36][37][38]
Big HawkMay 1, 200636Houston, Texas, U.S.Shot and killed[39]
VL MikeApril 20, 200832New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.Shot and killed[40]
DollaMay 18, 200921Los Angeles, California, U.S.Shot and killed[41][42][43]
LeleJuly 1, 201023Trujillo Alto, Puerto RicoShot and killed[44]
Magnolia ShortyDecember 20, 201028New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.Shot and killed[45]
Bad News BrownFebruary 11, 201133Montreal, Quebec, CanadaMurdered[46]
Adán ZapataJune 1, 201221San Nicolás, Nuevo León, MexicoShot and killed[47]
Lil PhatJune 7, 201219Sandy Springs, Georgia, U.S.Shot and killed[48]
MC DalesteJuly 7, 201320Paulínia, São Paulo, BrazilShot and killed[49]
Pavlos FyssasSeptember 18, 201334Keratsini, Athens, GreeceStabbed to death[50]
DepzmanSeptember 21, 201318Birmingham, West Midlands, EnglandStabbed to death[51]
Doe BDecember 28, 201322Montgomery, Alabama, U.S.Shot and killed[52]
The JackaFebruary 2, 201537Oakland, California, U.S.Shot and killed[53]
FlabbaMarch 9, 201537Alexandra, Gauteng, South AfricaStabbed to death[54]
Chinx DrugzMay 17, 201531New York City, New York, U.S.Shot and killed[55]
Bankroll FreshMarch 4, 201628Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.Shot and killed[56]
3-2November 10, 201644Houston, Texas, U.S.Shot and killed[57]
XXXTentacionJune 18, 201820Deerfield Beach, Florida, U.S.Shot and killed[58]
Jimmy WopoJune 18, 201821Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.Shot and killed[59][60]
Smoke DawgJune 30, 201821Toronto, Ontario, CanadaShot and killed[61]
Young GreatnessOctober 29, 201834New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.Shot and killed[62]
FeisJanuary 1, 201932Rotterdam, South Holland, NetherlandsShot and killed[63]
Kevin FretJanuary 10, 201925Río Piedras, San Juan, Puerto RicoShot and killed[64]
Nipsey HussleMarch 31, 201933Los Angeles, California, U.S.Shot and killed[65]
Pop SmokeFebruary 19, 202020Los Angeles, California, U.S.Shot and killed[66]
HueyJune 25, 202031Kinloch, Missouri, U.S.Shot and killed[67]

@mott-the-hoople said
childlike response...you listONE person...


check out this list...it fits the very meaning of "culture"

https://raptology.com/list-of-murdered-hip-hop-musicians/




List of murdered hip hop musicians

The following is a list of notable hip hop musicians who have been murdered.

A 2015 study concluded that murder was the cause of 51.5% of U.S. hip hop ...[text shortened]... rnia, U.S.Shot and killed[66]
HueyJune 25, 202031Kinloch, Missouri, U.S.Shot and killed[67]

And I could have listed dozens of white serial killers over the same period. So what?

Neither list has anything to do with a group's culture.

@no1marauder said
And I could have listed dozens of white serial killers over the same period. So what?

Neither list has anything to do with a group's culture.

And I can list dozens of black seriak killers...

Just because racist media and govt want to keep it hidden from you...research outside your safe zone and you wont appear so ignorant.

TABLE 2
Known African American Serial Killers (by Date)* as of 15 July 2010
Name with Known Predation Dates Victims State
Sydney JONES, bef. 1915 13 AL
Jake BIRD, 1920s–1947 40+WA
Jarvis CATOE, 1935–41 8 Washington, DC area
Clarence HILL, 1939–42 6 PA, NJ
Monroe HICKSON, 1946 4 SC
Lemuel Warren SMITH, 1958–77 5 NY
Devernon LEGRAND; Steven
LEGRAND, 1963–70 or later
6+NY
Winston MOSELEY, 1963–64 3 NY
Vaughn GREENWOOD, 1964–76 11 CA
Clarence WALKER, 1965 14 TN, OH, MI
Posteal LASKEY, 1965–66 7 OH
Winford STOKES, 1969–78 3 MO
Lester HARRISON, 1970–73 7 IL
David ROBERTS, 1971–74 4 IN
Tony ABLES, 1971–87 4+FL
John Floyd THOMAS jr, 1972–89 30+CA
Calvin JACKSON, 1973–74 9+NY
Anthony COOK; Nathaniel COOK,
1973–81
8+OH
Eddie Lee MOSLEY, 1973–87 16+FL
Ray Dell SIMS, 1974–77 5 CA
Coral WATTS, 1974–82 13+; possibly 80+TX, MI, Canada
Howard Arthur ALLEN, 1974–87 3 IN
Charles ‘Junior’ JACKSON, 1975–82 8 CA
John HENRY, 1975–85 3 FL
Carlton GARY, 1977–78 7 GA, NY?
William HANCE, 1977–78 4 GA, IN
Bobby Joe MAXWELL, 1978–79 10 CA
Vincent GROVES, 1978–88 14 CO
Gerald PARKER, 1978–79 5 CA
Wayne WILLIAMS, 1979–81 5+GA
Cesar Francesco BARONE, aka Adolph
James Rode, 1979–93
5+FL, OR
Donald MURPHY, 1980 5+MI
Michael Darnell HARRIS,1980–82 9 MI
Vernon BROWN, 1980–86 5+IN, MO
Thomas W. HAWKINS jr, 1980–89 3 PA
Reginald Wendell PERKINS,
1980–2000
4 TX, OH
David BULLOCK, 1981–82 6 NY
Beoria SIMMONS, 1981–83 3 KY
Brandon THOLMER, 1981–83 12+CA
Wilbur JENNINGS, 1981–86 5+CA
Norman BERNARD, 1983 3 NC, CA
Milton JOHNSON, 1983 17 IL
Kevin HALEY; Reginald HALEY,
1983–84
8CA
Anthony JOYNER, 1983–84 6 PA
Alton COLEMAN; Debra BROWN,

© 2012 The Author
The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice © 2012 The Howard League and Blackwell Publishing Ltd
TABLE 2
Known African American Serial Killers (by Date)* as of 15 July 2010
Name with Known Predation Dates Victims State
Sydney JONES, bef. 1915 13 AL
Jake BIRD, 1920s–1947 40+WA
Jarvis CATOE, 1935–41 8 Washington, DC area
Clarence HILL, 1939–42 6 PA, NJ
Monroe HICKSON, 1946 4 SC
Lemuel Warren SMITH, 1958–77 5 NY
Devernon LEGRAND; Steven
LEGRAND, 1963–70 or later
6+NY
Winston MOSELEY, 1963–64 3 NY
Vaughn GREENWOOD, 1964–76 11 CA
Clarence WALKER, 1965 14 TN, OH, MI
Posteal LASKEY, 1965–66 7 OH
Winford STOKES, 1969–78 3 MO
Lester HARRISON, 1970–73 7 IL
David ROBERTS, 1971–74 4 IN
Tony ABLES, 1971–87 4+FL
John Floyd THOMAS jr, 1972–89 30+CA
Calvin JACKSON, 1973–74 9+NY
Anthony COOK; Nathaniel COOK,
1973–81
8+OH
Eddie Lee MOSLEY, 1973–87 16+FL
Ray Dell SIMS, 1974–77 5 CA
Coral WATTS, 1974–82 13+; possibly 80+TX, MI, Canada
Howard Arthur ALLEN, 1974–87 3 IN
Charles ‘Junior’ JACKSON, 1975–82 8 CA
John HENRY, 1975–85 3 FL
Carlton GARY, 1977–78 7 GA, NY?
William HANCE, 1977–78 4 GA, IN
Bobby Joe MAXWELL, 1978–79 10 CA
Vincent GROVES, 1978–88 14 CO
Gerald PARKER, 1978–79 5 CA
Wayne WILLIAMS, 1979–81 5+GA
Cesar Francesco BARONE, aka Adolph
James Rode, 1979–93
5+FL, OR
Donald MURPHY, 1980 5+MI
Michael Darnell HARRIS,1980–82 9 MI
Vernon BROWN, 1980–86 5+IN, MO
Thomas W. HAWKINS jr, 1980–89 3 PA
Reginald Wendell PERKINS,
1980–2000
4 TX, OH
David BULLOCK, 1981–82 6 NY
Beoria SIMMONS, 1981–83 3 KY
Brandon THOLMER, 1981–83 12+CA
Wilbur JENNINGS, 1981–86 5+CA
Norman BERNARD, 1983 3 NC, CA
Milton JOHNSON, 1983 17 IL
Kevin HALEY; Reginald HALEY,
1983–84
8CA
Anthony JOYNER, 1983–84 6 PA
Alton COLEMAN; Debra BROWN,
1984
9 OH, IN, IL
The Howard Journal Vol 52 No 1. February 2013
ISSN 0265-5527, pp. 1–18
7
© 2012 The Author
The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice © 2012 The Howard League and Blackwell Publishing Ltd
TABLE 2 (Continued)
Name with Known Predation Dates Victims State
Horace KELLY, 1984 3 CA
Anthony WIMBERLY, 1984–85 3 CA
Wilbur JENNINGS, 1981–86 5+CA
Nathaniel CODE, 1984–87 8 LA
Louis CRAIN, 1984–87 5 CA
Timothy SPENCER, 1984–87 4 VA
Melvin JOHNSON, 1984–88 3 IL
Jeffrey Gerard JONES, 1985 4 CA
Anthony MCKNIGHT, 1985 5+CA
Robert ROZIER, 1985–86 7+FL, NY, MD
Curtis Don BROWN, 1985–86 3+TX
Michael TERRY, 1985–86 6 GA
Lonnie Franklin jr, 1985–2007 11 CA
John BROOKS, 1986 6+LA
Michael PLAYER, 1986 10 CA
Harrison GRAHAM, 1986–87 7 PA
Ronald GRAY, 1986–87 4 NC
Morris SOLOMON, 1986–87 7 CA
Ivan Jerome HILL, 1986–94 8 CA
Alexander Wayne WATSON jr,
1986–94
5+MD
Walter E. ELLIS, 1986–2007 8 WI
William Howard DAVIS, 1986–2008 3+GA
Clinton BANKSTON, 1987 5 GA
Yusef RAHMAN, 1987–88 4 KS, NY
Chester TURNER, 1987–88 11 CA
Patrick BAXTER, 1987–90 3 NY
Elton JACKSON, 1987–96 12 VA
Anthony KIRKLAND, 1987–2009 5 OH
Ray Shawn JACKSON, 1989–90 6 MO
Sam CHINN, 1989–95 3 NY, TX
Timothy HAWKINS, 1989–2001 3 MD
Christopher PETERSON, 1990 7 IN
Cleophus PRINCE, 1990 6 CA
George RUSSELL, 1990 3 WA
Henry Louis WALLACE, 1990–94 9 NC
Edward George MCGREGOR,
1990–2006
4TX
Eugene BROXTON, 1991 5 TX
Earl RICHMOND, 1991 5 NJ, NC
Benjamin ATKINS, 1991–92 11 MI
Jerome DENNIS, 1991–92 5 NJ
Nathaniel WHITE, 1991–92 6 NY
Gregory CLEPPER, 1991–96 8 IL
Arohn KEE, 1991–98 3+NY
Alfred Lee ROBINSON, 1991–bef.
2007
4FL
Samuel IVERY, 1992 4+CA, AZ, IL, AL
Bryan Maurice JONES, 1992 or bef. 4 CA
Michael HUGHES, 1992–93 8 CA
Lorenzo FAYNE, 1992–94 5 MO
Ralph HARRIS, 1992–95 6 IL
Charles Lendelle CARTER, 1992–2007 4+GA


The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice © 2012 The Howard League and Blackwell Publishing Ltd
TABLE 2
Known African American Serial Killers (by Date)* as of 15 July 2010
Name with Known Predation Dates Victims State
Sydney JONES, bef. 1915 13 AL
Jake BIRD, 1920s–1947 40+WA
Jarvis CATOE, 1935–41 8 Washington, DC area
Clarence HILL, 1939–42 6 PA, NJ
Monroe HICKSON, 1946 4 SC
Lemuel Warren SMITH, 1958–77 5 NY
Devernon LEGRAND; Steven
LEGRAND, 1963–70 or later
6+NY
Winston MOSELEY, 1963–64 3 NY
Vaughn GREENWOOD, 1964–76 11 CA
Clarence WALKER, 1965 14 TN, OH, MI
Posteal LASKEY, 1965–66 7 OH
Winford STOKES, 1969–78 3 MO
Lester HARRISON, 1970–73 7 IL
David ROBERTS, 1971–74 4 IN
Tony ABLES, 1971–87 4+FL
John Floyd THOMAS jr, 1972–89 30+CA
Calvin JACKSON, 1973–74 9+NY
Anthony COOK; Nathaniel COOK,
1973–81
8+OH
Eddie Lee MOSLEY, 1973–87 16+FL
Ray Dell SIMS, 1974–77 5 CA
Coral WATTS, 1974–82 13+; possibly 80+TX, MI, Canada
Howard Arthur ALLEN, 1974–87 3 IN
Charles ‘Junior’ JACKSON, 1975–82 8 CA
John HENRY, 1975–85 3 FL
Carlton GARY, 1977–78 7 GA, NY?
William HANCE, 1977–78 4 GA, IN
Bobby Joe MAXWELL, 1978–79 10 CA
Vincent GROVES, 1978–88 14 CO
Gerald PARKER, 1978–79 5 CA
Wayne WILLIAMS, 1979–81 5+GA
Cesar Francesco BARONE, aka Adolph
James Rode, 1979–93
5+FL, OR
Donald MURPHY, 1980 5+MI
Michael Darnell HARRIS,1980–82 9 MI
Vernon BROWN, 1980–86 5+IN, MO
Thomas W. HAWKINS jr, 1980–89 3 PA
Reginald Wendell PERKINS,
1980–2000
4 TX, OH
David BULLOCK, 1981–82 6 NY
Beoria SIMMONS, 1981–83 3 KY
Brandon THOLMER, 1981–83 12+CA
Wilbur JENNINGS, 1981–86 5+CA
Norman BERNARD, 1983 3 NC, CA
Milton JOHNSON, 1983 17 IL
Kevin HALEY; Reginald HALEY,
1983–84
8CA
Anthony JOYNER, 1983–84 6 PA
Alton COLEMAN; Debra BROWN,
1984
9 OH, IN, IL
The Howard Journal Vol 52 No 1. February 2013
ISSN 0265-5527, pp. 1–18
7
© 2012 The Author
The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice © 2012 The Howard League and Blackwell Publishing Ltd
TABLE 2 (Continued)
Name with Known Predation Dates Victims State
Horace KELLY, 1984 3 CA
Anthony WIMBERLY, 1984–85 3 CA
Wilbur JENNINGS, 1981–86 5+CA
Nathaniel CODE, 1984–87 8 LA
Louis CRAIN, 1984–87 5 CA
Timothy SPENCER, 1984–87 4 VA
Melvin JOHNSON, 1984–88 3 IL
Jeffrey Gerard JONES, 1985 4 CA
Anthony MCKNIGHT, 1985 5+CA
Robert ROZIER, 1985–86 7+FL, NY, MD
Curtis Don BROWN, 1985–86 3+TX
Michael TERRY, 1985–86 6 GA
Lonnie Franklin jr, 1985–2007 11 CA
John BROOKS, 1986 6+LA
Michael PLAYER, 1986 10 CA
Harrison GRAHAM, 1986–87 7 PA
Ronald GRAY, 1986–87 4 NC
Morris SOLOMON, 1986–87 7 CA
Ivan Jerome HILL, 1986–94 8 CA
Alexander Wayne WATSON jr,
1986–94
5+MD
Walter E. ELLIS, 1986–2007 8 WI
William Howard DAVIS, 1986–2008 3+GA
Clinton BANKSTON, 1987 5 GA
Yusef RAHMAN, 1987–88 4 KS, NY
Chester TURNER, 1987–88 11 CA
Patrick BAXTER, 1987–90 3 NY
Elton JACKSON, 1987–96 12 VA
Anthony KIRKLAND, 1987–2009 5 OH
Ray Shawn JACKSON, 1989–90 6 MO
Sam CHINN, 1989–95 3 NY, TX
Timothy HAWKINS, 1989–2001 3 MD
Christopher PETERSON, 1990 7 IN
Cleophus PRINCE, 1990 6 CA
George RUSSELL, 1990 3 WA
Henry Louis WALLACE, 1990–94 9 NC
Edward George MCGREGOR,
1990–2006
4TX
Eugene BROXTON, 1991 5 TX
Earl RICHMOND, 1991 5 NJ, NC
Benjamin ATKINS, 1991–92 11 MI
Jerome DENNIS, 1991–92 5 NJ
Nathaniel WHITE, 1991–92 6 NY
Gregory CLEPPER, 1991–96 8 IL
Arohn KEE, 1991–98 3+NY
Alfred Lee ROBINSON, 1991–bef.
2007
4FL
Samuel IVERY, 1992 4+CA, AZ, IL, AL
Bryan Maurice JONES, 1992 or bef. 4 CA
Michael HUGHES, 1992–93 8 CA
Lorenzo FAYNE, 1992–94 5 MO
Ralph HARRIS, 1992–95 6 IL
Charles Lendelle CARTER, 1992–2007 4+GA
The Howard Journal Vol 52 No 1. February 2013
ISSN 0265-5527, pp. 1–18
8
© 2012 The Author
The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice © 2012 The Howard League and Blackwell Publishing Ltd
TABLE 2 (Continued)
Name with Known Predation Dates Victims State
James E. SWANN, 1993 4 DC
David MIDDLETON, 1993–95 3 CO
Andre CRAWFORD, 1993–99 10 IL
Hubert GERALDS, 1994–95 6 IL
Johnny Ray JOHNSON, 1994–95 4 TX
Anthony BALAAM, 1994–96 4 NJ
Eugene BRITT, 1995 9 IN
Robert Lee PARKER, 1995–96 4 WA, GA
John WILLIAMS jr, 1995–97 5 NC
Kendall FRANCOIS, 1996–98 8 NY
Charles Lee DUFFY, 1997 3 GA
Elroy CHESTER, 1997–98 5 TX
Alfred GAYNOR, 1997–98 4 MA
Dewayne Lee HARRIS, 1997–98 3 WA
Paul DUROUSSEAU, 1997–2003 7 GA, FL
Lorenzo GILYARD, 1997–2004 12 MO
Lucious BOYD, 1998 3+LA
Ivan L. PAGE, 1998–2001 3 MI
Juan COVIN...

@mott-the-hoople said
@Mott-The-Hoople
so many it exceeded word count...

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251345434_African_American_Serial_Killers_Over-Represented_Yet_Underacknowledged

Who cares?

These lists are irrelevant to a group's culture; both Black and White cultures in the US (to the extent they exist) find murder abhorrent.

You do realize that, right?

@no1marauder said
Who cares?

These lists are irrelevant to a group's culture; both Black and White cultures in the US (to the extent they exist) find murder abhorrent.

You do realize that, right?

I realize you got shot down...again

@mott-the-hoople said
I realize you got shot down...again

LMAO! You actually copied and pasted a hundred years worth of killers just to make ,,,,,,,,,,, what point exactly?

Again, neither Black nor White cultures in the US, to the extent they exist, condone or support murder. So your list is utterly irrelevant to any issue in this thread.

Maybe you're too stupid to understand that, but it remains a fact. You and a few others keep insinuating that there is some sort of a "Black culture" in the US that gleefully supports murder, mostly of other blacks, but that racist stereotype exists only in your own minds, not in reality.

@no1marauder said
LMAO! You actually copied and pasted a hundred years worth of killers just to make ,,,,,,,,,,, what point exactly?

Again, neither Black nor White cultures in the US, to the extent they exist, condone or support murder. So your list is utterly irrelevant to any issue in this thread.

Maybe you're too stupid to understand that, but it remains a fact. You and a few othe ...[text shortened]... r, mostly of other blacks, but that racist stereotype exists only in your own minds, not in reality.

data backs up what we say...sorry i offended you by not allowing your lie about WHITE serial killers.

@mott-the-hoople said
data backs up what we say...sorry i offended you by not allowing your lie about WHITE serial killers.

Not that it has any relevance at all, but are you seriously claiming that there haven't been dozens of white serial killers since 1987 (which is what I said)?

You make the most ridiculous claims that someone is "lying" of anybody on this board.

Data backs up what exactly?

@no1marauder said
It doesn't matter but:

"In addition, 82 percent of American serial killers were white, 15 percent were black, and 2.5 percent were Hispanic. "

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/[WORD TOO LONG].

right in line with the racial makeup of the US.

Kind of knocks down the premise of whites are the worst serial killers.

What is your point?

@mott-the-hoople said
right in line with the racial makeup of the US.

Kind of knocks down the premise of whites are the worst serial killers.

What is your point?

There are more than 2.5 percent Hispanics

@athousandyoung said
There are more than 2.5 percent Hispanics

at the time of the study how many were there? 🙄