Originally posted by CliffLandinI never said it was ALL recited by God. I said it was all INSPIRED by God.
So the bible isn't only recited from god, it is also second hand accounts of things that occured? You have said that every word of the bible was divinely dictated, did god forget to mention the others or were parts of the bible not so divinely dictated?
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And Mary seeing the empty tomb and eventually the risen Christ is definitely an inspiration from God. Frankly, it only lends credence to the story that those three gentlemen didn't cite exactly who was at the tomb but that they heard it from Mary Magdalene at a time when it was UNHEARD OF for women to be witnesses.
Originally posted by CliffLandinWell you know what I was trying to say.
It's really hard to tell what you are saying since things like meens aren't even words.
Look if you are really surching for truth go to a Baptist church, or Pentacostal Church this church has people who have been blessed with the gift of tounges.
I could truly care if you don't understand, because you are being rude about it.
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Originally posted by RBHILLI went to baptist school, RB. I didn't buy it then and I'm not buying now. Why do you think that I am being mean? Because you are having your eyes opened to the fact that the bible does, in fact, contradict itself? I am not being nearly as rude as you and Darfius with your constant "Unless you believe what we believe you are going to hell" rant. You have no respect for other people and their beliefs so I have no respect for yours. Should I be nicer to you because you are "saved"? Save your breath and your bad spelling for someone a little more gullible than I! Is that clear enough or should I misspell a few words for you?
Well you know what I was trying to say.
Look if you are really surching for truth go to a Baptist church, or Pentacostal Church this church has people who have been blessed with the gift of tounges.
I could truly care if you don't understand, because you are being rude about it.
Originally posted by CliffLandinWhen you ask us to be tolerant of other people's religions, you're asking us to be OK when they doom themselves to hell.
I went to baptist school, RB. I didn't buy it then and I'm not buying now. Why do you think that I am being mean? Because you are having your eyes opened to the fact that the bible does, in fact, contradict itself? I am not being nearly as rude as you and Darfius with your constant "Unless you believe what we believe you are going to hell" rant. ...[text shortened]... ttle more gullible than I! [b]Is that clear enough or should I misspell a few words for you?[/b]
I mean, come on, even if you don't understand our theology, you have to understand that simple concept.
Originally posted by CliffLandinToo easy. When both are in Heaven (Jesus in the form of the Word and Son and God in the form of the Father, they are equal) but when Jesus was on earth, he was both the Word and a man, so at the time being, God the Father was greater.
Fifth,
[b]Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. [/b]
Originally posted by CliffLandinThe second account is just reiterating WHERE God made animals from, but the main point is that they were brought before Adam for naming because they LACKED names until Adam was made.
Sixth,
[b]Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, ...[text shortened]... e would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. [/b]
Originally posted by CliffLandinJust like it said, 7 of every clean animal and 2 of every unclean.
Seventh,
[b]The number of beasts in the ark
GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. [/b]
The two by two is just the number they entered the ark by. Two by two. I assume they each went in with their mate, except one extra male for the clean animals.
Originally posted by CliffLandinNote what it says.
Eighth,
[b]How many stalls and horsemen?
KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem. [/b]
The first is saying that he had 40,000 horses to put with chariots.
The second says he only had enough chariots for 4,000 horses.
Originally posted by CliffLandinYou have to look at it in context.
Nineth,
[b]Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." [/b]
In Proverbs, wisdom of the LAW is great.
In Ecclesiastes, he's comparing wisdom to knowledge and that is of the WORLD AROUND HIM. He was talking about the state of things among people who did not know God.
In 1 Corinthians, Paul is saying that those who think themselves too smart for God will incur His wrath.
Originally posted by CliffLandinJesus was of the LINE of David, both through Joseph (his adopted father) and Mary, his mother.
Tenth,
[b]Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. [/b]
The Holy Spirit impregnated Mary so that the prophecy that the Messiah would be born of a virgin would be fulfilled.
Originally posted by DarfiusSo here you admit, that either through omission by Mary Magdalene or by a omission by the author, bible does contradict itself.
I never said it was ALL recited by God. I said it was all INSPIRED by God.
And Mary seeing the empty tomb and eventually the risen Christ is definitely an inspiration from God. Frankly, it only lends credence to the story that those three gentlemen didn't cite exactly who was at the tomb but that they heard it from Mary Magdalene at a time when it was UNHEARD OF for women to be witnesses.
Originally posted by CliffLandinThe first is talking about the evil city of Babylon (in present day Iraq) and how the children would not run the evil city because God would destroy it. Babylon will not be a powerful city again until the end times (though it's not clear if it's the literal Babylon or an evil equivalent). Babylon used to be Satan's stronghold.
Eleventh,
[b]The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. [/b]
The second is talking about SERVANTS. Do not punish servants for the actions of their parents or children. Blame them each for his own. That prevented uncalled for abuse of slaves.