Originally posted by Darfius
I already covered this in another post, Nem, as you well know. 😛
Yes, you did. The literal Scripture reads that Christian shall put
away ALL ANGER, but you feel that 'all' should be interpreted
as 'some.'
Also, if the Bible itself says it is interrant, how am I wrong? You're the one picking and choosing which parts you want to believe.
I would like you to cite the specific place(s) wherein the Bible calls
itself inerrant.
Nemesio
Originally posted by CliffLandinOk, I'm going to refute a few of these. I am sure this has been said before, but as Omnislash told me, I don't have to sit and read the 100 + posts in this thread 🙂
Here are a few biblical contradictions that I found with about two seconds of research. I will list each one give you the chance to refute them.
First.
[b]God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers an ...[text shortened]... the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.[/b]
First one is this. The second scripture has nothing to do with god loving only a few, it says that he will destroy a group of people. We cannot infer that he is not showing them mercy, or that killing them isn't good in this case. That is why this argument is not solid.
Originally posted by CliffLandinThese scriptures each mention the same people. Salome is only mentioned in one, but in none of the scriptures does it say that Salome wasn't there. The only way that this would be contrary is if one of the scriptures said Salome was there, and the other said that he wasn't.
Fourth,
[b]Who was at the Empty Tomb?
Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and ...[text shortened]... y, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. [/b]
Originally posted by CliffLandinThe first scripture does not say anything about equalness. It would be a contradiction only if Jesus said "My father and I are equal" and then said "My father is greater than I." He only states that they are one. We can't infer that one means equal.
Fifth,
[b]Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. [/b]
Originally posted by CliffLandinSounds to me like he talked to his disciples in the mountains, and then walked down on the plains and talked to everyone, including his disciples.
Twelve
[b]Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
Matt.5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."
Luke6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."[/b]
I see no contradiction here
Originally posted by CliffLandinScripture one says that god tempted Abraham, scripture two says that he tempts no man to do evil. From what is written we can not infer that he was tempting for evil.
Seventeenth
[b]Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (Gen 22:1)
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James 1:13) [/b]
Originally posted by CliffLandinlol, I do have to say this one made me laugh.
Twentieth
[b]Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. [/b]
I honestly think the rest of these are either:
1. Translation errors (The hebrew people spoke very differently from us)
or
2. Different accounts based on memory lapses. Psycologists have studied memory and we know that people remember things differently (like for example in what order people say things).
Comments?
Originally posted by DarfiusDoes the alpha athiest get to sleep with all the other athiests wives?
Honestly, these people know there are no contradictions.
They go copy and paste from their resident "alpha atheist" and then salivate with happiness because they think they've stumped us.
J/K
Though in many ways Darfuis does have a point, I don't believe that all athiests are just out to make people who believe in God look stupid.
Originally posted by DarfiusDarfius,
Honestly, these people know there are no contradictions.
They go copy and paste from their resident "alpha atheist" and then salivate with happiness because they think they've stumped us.
Wouldn't a better answer be there are contradictions, but they don't matter. Isn't the root message is supposed to be accept Jesus as your saviour and eternal life will be yours? The rest of the Bible is essentially a guide for living life as related through stories. I sure some of it is inaccurate and/or irrelvant, but, does this really matter?
Originally posted by Hand of HecateNo. I won't admit there are contradictions because there are none.
Darfius,
Wouldn't a better answer be there are contradictions, but they don't matter. Isn't the root message is supposed to be accept Jesus as your saviour and eternal life will be yours? The rest of the Bible is essentially a guide for living life as related through stories. I sure some of it is inaccurate and/or irrelvant, but, does this really matter?
At best there are simply questionable passages that we have no method of answering either way for now.
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Originally posted by DarfiusThis is inaccurate. You won't admit there are contradictions because
No. I won't admit there are contradictions because there are none.
you will invent all manner of absurd, non-literal, contrived explanations
for every single one pointed out.
It comes down to the fact that you won't admit it, but they are there.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioEntirely false.
This is inaccurate. You won't admit there are contradictions because
you will invent all manner of absurd, non-literal, contrived explanations
for every single one pointed out.
It comes down to the fact that you won't admit it, but they are there.
Nemesio
When you find a contradiction, go to google and see if it's been refuted.
Save me some time.
Originally posted by DarfiusLook, just because someone invents a non-Biblical, outrageous
Entirely false.
When you find a contradiction, go to google and see if it's been refuted.
Save me some time.
scenario to explain what is obviously a contradiction does not
constitute a refutation.
Judas has two different, mutually exclusive deaths. Creating absurd,
improbable scenarios doesn't change this.
Jesus was crucified on two mutually exclusive days. Creating a
definition of Passover that doesn't exist anywhere in Jewish history
doesn't change this.
You won't admit it, but they are there. You are willing to suspend
thinking about it because you desparately need the Bible to be
inerrant in order to believe. It's a bloody tragedy.
Nemesio