24 Jul 20
@philokalia saidA knee on the neck.
and thus the Police are always on guard.
Bullets in a man's back.
Giving a hog-tied man a "nickel tour" in the back of a police van.
Planting evidence.
Kicking in the door to the wrong apartment and firing willy-nilly.
Yes, forever they're on guard. On guard for incompetence, cruelty, and corruption.
24 Jul 20
@philokalia saidAverage number of Police killed per annum in USA is less than 100.
Lots of fatalities for police actually occur when responding to relatively minor disturbances.
Average number of killings by Police per annum 150+
Decent training and selection would probably reduce both statistics.
There are about 1 million law enforcement officers in USA.
In 2019 there were 48 felonious deaths out of that million.
There are less than 900,000 agricultural workers in USA.
There were 257 fatal injuries in 2018.
Of the 55,000 logging workers,
there were 74 fatal injuries.
So policing isn't that dangerous is it?
There isn't that much support for defunding the police:
In it, 66% of adults said they oppose cutting the police budget in their community to channel money to social services, the scheme pushed by many liberals. That is up from 59% just last month.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/thick-blue-line-surge-in-support-for-cops-just-2-in-10-back-defund-scheme
@philokalia saidNot much support?
There isn't that much support for defunding the police:
In it, 66% of adults said they oppose cutting the police budget in their community to channel money to social services, the scheme pushed by many liberals. That is up from 59% just last month.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/thick-blue-line-surge-in-support-for-cops-just-2-in-10-back-defund-scheme
Rule of thumb ... not much = less than 5% and probably closer to 1%
Your own stat implies 34% do not oppose defunding the Police in
their community. How many million people is that?
24 Jul 20
@shavixmir saidAnd some wish they'd been a girlie just like their dear papas!
More police than farmers?
And, uh, 55.000 lumberjacks??? What’s that all aboot?
24 Jul 20
@soothfast saidThose things are illegal or have already been handled.
A knee on the neck.
Bullets in a man's back.
Giving a hog-tied man a "nickel tour" in the back of a police van.
Planting evidence.
Kicking in the door to the wrong apartment and firing willy-nilly.
Yes, forever they're on guard. On guard for incompetence, cruelty, and corruption.
Why riot?
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@wolfgang59 saidSo 1% is enough to constitute some support?
Not much support?
Rule of thumb ... not much = less than 5% and probably closer to 1%
Your own stat implies 34% do not oppose defunding the Police in
their community. How many million people is that?
I tend to disagree.
24 Jul 20
@philokalia saidThey have no been handled.
Those things are illegal or have already been handled.
😕
If a brand of toaster routinely caused house fires would
you say it had been handled when the fires were put out?
@philokalia saidDisagree all you want, I'm challenging your assertion
So 1% is enough to constitute some support?
I tend to disagree.
There isn't that much support for defunding the police:
when there is 33% who do not oppose it.
24 Jul 20
@wolfgang59 saidThat's an interesting parallel.
They have no been handled.
If a brand of toaster routinely caused house fires would
you say it had been handled when the fires were put out?
But the number of unjustifiable homicides done by police is honestly incredibly small.
How many other unjustifiable homicides occurred this year..?
And was this even really a homicide per se, and not something more like manslaughter as it was not the intended result of the action, but merely the result of reckless behavior?
For a nation that is as armed as the USA, I have to say that I think it is doing a good job.
@wolfgang59 said1/3 of people support it.
Disagree all you want, I'm challenging your assertion
There isn't that much support for defunding the police:
when there is 33% who do not oppose it.
2/3 of people oppose it.
In a system that is supposed to be a representative democracy, the big number wins, and the big number could be conceived of as having much support, and the smaller number in the dichotomy as having little.
24 Jul 20
@philokalia saidThe system is irrelevant.
In a system that is supposed to be a representative democracy, the big number wins, and the big number could be conceived of as having much support, and the smaller number in the dichotomy as having little.
1/3 does not equate to "not much".
Be it population, cake or Trump supporters.