@metal-brain saidOh, the sheer irony.
You have rejected reality. Propaganda can do that. It plants a narrative in your mind that is contradictory. You have been duped into accepting obvious contradictions.
@sonhouse saidhttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/12/09/us-military-admits-we-deliberately-bombed-hospital-iraq
@Metal-Brain
So the Russians for instance, did NOT bomb that children's hospital?
Your support of Putin makes you an agent of Russia, whether you are paid or not.
I go with I think you ARE paid.
@metal-brain saidHey idiot the USSR was a Russian empire, an empire that fell and contracted back to its own borders. It is now attempting imperial EXPANSION to recapture its lost empire.
Both used to be in the USSR. Taking them back is expansion?
You have a funny definition of expansion.
If China invaded and occupied California and we took it back would that be expansion?
Russia is run by a fascist halfwit who thought he could rebuild the Muscovite empire out of string and ceiling wax and now he’s having to beg Syrian fascist extremists to bolster the ranks of his grand imperial army.
Russia is becoming a third rate Beijing outpost in the west and it will get crushed between the two great power blocs.
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@metal-brain saidNo, but your insistence that Ukraine is part of Russia, rather than the other way around, is.
Obama's presidency was a millennium in the past?
@metal-brain saidNo that’s where we differ you Kremonazi, unless you can show me a post where I supported or tried to justify these wars.
I never said Georgia and Ukraine are NATO members. You are lying.
They are seeking NATO membership. That is what Russia has a problem with.
Who murdered Iraq and Libya? You know there is no moral high ground. The USA and NATO both invade counties without provocation and you know it. You are lying to me and maybe to yourself. Fallujah and Sirte. Blatant war crimes. You ...[text shortened]... ative in your mind that is contradictory. You have been duped into accepting obvious contradictions.
Oh and NATO did not invade Iraq and the Libyan intervention was in support of a United Nations Security Council resolution so it must have had Russian approval. An intervention to stop the actual slaughter of civilians by an unelected despot trying to cling to power is not in anyway similar to a nation state invading a neighbouring nation state for purposes of expansion and the suppression of democracy.
It was still a stupid miscalculation though, but it did end the life of the murdering rapist Gaddafi and his regime. It’s the Libyans themselves that are slaughtering each other.
Any thoughts on the Russian invasion of Syria at the behest of that other murdering despot who they supported whilst he gassed his own people?
Stop lying and stop being stupid
@kevcvs57 said"unless you can show me a post where I supported or tried to justify these wars."
No that’s where we differ you Kremonazi, unless you can show me a post where I supported or tried to justify these wars.
Oh and NATO did not invade Iraq and the Libyan intervention was in support of a United Nations Security Council resolution so it must have had Russian approval. An intervention to stop the actual slaughter of civilians by an unelected despot trying to cl ...[text shortened]... rdering despot who they supported whilst he gassed his own people?
Stop lying and stop being stupid
LOL! You just did.
"Oh and NATO did not invade Iraq"
I never said NATO invaded Iraq. I said the invasion of Libya was a NATO led invasion and it was. NATO did have some role in the occupation of Iraq by assisting security forces though. United Nations Security Council resolution for a no-fly zone didn't really have Russian approval, it was an abstention. The five abstentions were: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and Germany.
"An intervention to stop the actual slaughter of civilians by an unelected despot trying to cling to power is not in anyway similar to a nation state invading a neighbouring nation state for purposes of expansion and the suppression of democracy."
Here is where you are trying to justify these wars. Russia is trying to stop the actual slaughter of civilians in Ukraine. Why do you have no empathy for the ethnic Russians who were killed by neo nazis? Are they unworthy victims?
The USA and NATO have no problem with unelected despots in Saudi Arabia. Gaddafi was not a rapist. You have been reading anti Gaddafi propaganda again. I doubt Syria's dictator gassed his own people, but even if he did the USA government's Use of White Phosphorus Bombs Is an Open Violation of International Law. Is that any better?
http://www.cnfocus.com/the-us-use-of-white-phosphorus-bombs-is-an-open-violation-of-international-law/
@Metal-Brain
Congratulations! Putin will be sending you a HUGE bonus after this latest scree of yours.
Yep, Putin just trying to stop Ukranian genocide on those helpless Russians in the East of Ukraine.
You continue to prove you are in fact a TRAITOR to the US.
And you can admit it, we know we have enemies, just call it out, at least we will know how you stand.
@sonhouse said"Yep, Putin just trying to stop Ukranian genocide on those helpless Russians in the East of Ukraine."
@Metal-Brain
Congratulations! Putin will be sending you a HUGE bonus after this latest scree of yours.
Yep, Putin just trying to stop Ukranian genocide on those helpless Russians in the East of Ukraine.
You continue to prove you are in fact a TRAITOR to the US.
And you can admit it, we know we have enemies, just call it out, at least we will know how you stand.
Those ethnic Russians did ask Putin to come in and protect them. Putin said he would only come in and do that if he was asked and they asked. That is not Russian propaganda. You just are not hearing it from the corporate news media because that is propaganda. Propaganda by omission. Then there are the fake news stories the pro-War Media was Caught Pushing.
https://rumble.com/vw4t18-pro-war-media-caught-pushing-fake-ukraine-stories.html
You are being influenced by propaganda.
@Metal-Brain
And YOU are being PAID by Putin, that much is CLEAR.
OF COURSE you would say that since what REALLY happens is Russian agents go in and START the process of it LOOKING like Ukrainians are attacking those poor innocent Russian.
I would LOVE to find out who you really are.
@sonhouse saidI am an American born in Petoskey Michigan and I grew up on a dairy farm here in Michigan. Cows have lower teeth but no upper teeth and they sleep laying down.
@Metal-Brain
And YOU are being PAID by Putin, that much is CLEAR.
OF COURSE you would say that since what REALLY happens is Russian agents go in and START the process of it LOOKING like Ukrainians are attacking those poor innocent Russian.
I would LOVE to find out who you really are.
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@metal-brain saidNATO DID NOT INVADE IRAQ YOU HALFWIT, THE US LED INVASION WAS NOT A NATO OPERATION.
"unless you can show me a post where I supported or tried to justify these wars."
LOL! You just did.
"Oh and NATO did not invade Iraq"
I never said NATO invaded Iraq. I said the invasion of Libya was a NATO led invasion and it was. NATO did have some role in the occupation of Iraq by assisting security forces though. United Nations Security Council resolution fo ...[text shortened]... tp://www.cnfocus.com/the-us-use-of-white-phosphorus-bombs-is-an-open-violation-of-international-law/
THE NATO OPERATION MAINLY BY AIR IN LYBIA WITH LITTLE OR NO GROUND INCURSIONS WAS IN SUPPORT OF A UN SECURITY COUNCIL DIRECTIVE.
THE NATO INVASION AND SUBSEQUENT OCCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN WAS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE US ACTIVATING ARTICLE 5 WHICH IS BASED ON THE CONCEPT THAT AN ATTACK ON ONE IS AN ATTACK ON ALL.
ON 9/11 THE US WAS ATTACKED FROM THE TERRITORY OF AFGHANISTAN.
STOP LYING AND STOP BEING STUPID
@kevcvs57 saidI NEVER said NATO invaded Iraq. I said that about Libya.
NATO DID NOT INVADE IRAQ YOU HALFWIT, THE US LED INVASION WAS NOT A NATO OPERATION.
THE NATO OPERATION MAINLY BY AIR IN LYBIA WITH LITTLE OR NO GROUND INCURSIONS WAS IN SUPPORT OF A UN SECURITY COUNCIL DIRECTIVE.
THE NATO INVASION AND SUBSEQUENT OCCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN WAS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE US ACTIVATING ARTICLE 5 WHICH IS BASED ON THE CONCEPT THAT AN ATTACK ON ONE I ...[text shortened]... .
ON 9/11 THE US WAS ATTACKED FROM THE TERRITORY OF AFGHANISTAN.
STOP LYING AND STOP BEING STUPID
STOP LYING!