01 Mar 23
Since the Frankenstein virus is from a lab my government has decided to use that fact to demonize China in a propaganda campaign to turn the western world against China.
They are counting on you forgetting the fact Fauci funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab and foolishly blame China for it.
Fauci created the pandemic and should go to prison for it.
https://rumble.com/v2b7fj8-us-government-admits-covid-likely-came-from-lab.-china-unveils-ukraine-peac.html
Don't fall for the anti China propaganda. Imprison Fauci the charlatan.
01 Mar 23
@vivify saidThe NIH lied.
From your link:
Not all GOF research is equally dangerous. Some types, for example, modify bacteria to produce insulin to treat people with diabetes.
What the NIH has denied is funding GOF research that would make a coronavirus more dangerous, such as by improving its lethality or transmissibility.
https://www.paul.senate.gov/op_eds/fox-news-op-ed-sen-rand-paul-md-nih-lied-and-continues-lie-about-gain-function-research-and-covid/
@metal-brain saidThe alleged letter Paul asserts contained an admission from the NIH is not available in the link he himself provided.
The NIH lied.
https://www.paul.senate.gov/op_eds/fox-news-op-ed-sen-rand-paul-md-nih-lied-and-continues-lie-about-gain-function-research-and-covid/
How convenient.
01 Mar 23
@vivify
Did you catch this part?
The NIH is effectively moving the goalposts and arguing that any experiment that combines an unknown virus with a known pathogen such as the SARS coronavirus (15% mortality) is not gain-of-function because the experimenters do not know yet whether the recombinant virus will be enhanced.
That’s crazy! Defining away ‘gain-of-function’ research by saying it doesn’t exist unless you know in advance it will occur is the very essence of hubris.
So, according to the altered NIH standard, recombining any unknown bat virus with a deadly virus like MERS (a coronavirus with mortality as high as 50😵 is NOT gain of function research because the result is not yet known.
@metal-brain saidLook at this excerpt, which was linked to by your Newsweek article:
So, according to the altered NIH standard, recombining any unknown bat virus with a deadly virus like MERS (a coronavirus with mortality as high as 50😵 is NOT gain of function research because the result is not yet known.
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/
[The grant] outlines an ambitious effort led by EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak to screen thousands of bat samples for novel coronaviruses. The research also involved screening people who work with live animals.
The documents contain several critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact that key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted at a biosafety level 3 lab at Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment — and not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed
Nothing here indicates any research intending to create or knowingly risking more dangerous pathogens.
02 Mar 23
@vivify saidSo improving transmissibility is GOF too.
From your link:
Not all GOF research is equally dangerous. Some types, for example, modify bacteria to produce insulin to treat people with diabetes.
What the NIH has denied is funding GOF research that would make a coronavirus more dangerous, such as by improving its lethality or transmissibility.
SARS2 is an improvement of transmissibility of SARS1.
Where is the missing link? You have no evidence of natural origin after all these years. After years of beating a dead horse you charlatan apologists came up with nothing.
How about releasing the emails from Fauci and Collins regarding the Zero Hedge article without redactions. The one titled "conspiracy gains momentum". Why did they redact everything except the email headline? What is the huge secret? Were they freaked out that they might be exposed for funding the creation of SARS2 thereby creating the pandemic that killed a lot of people?
Don't you think we have a right to know?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57336280
@metal-brain saidHahaha that why it’s called RESEARCH 💩 for brains if they knew the outcome they wouldn’t do RESEARCH.
@vivify
Did you catch this part?
The NIH is effectively moving the goalposts and arguing that any experiment that combines an unknown virus with a known pathogen such as the SARS coronavirus (15% mortality) is not gain-of-function because the experimenters do not know yet whether the recombinant virus will be enhanced.
That’s crazy! Defining away ‘gain-of-function ...[text shortened]... with mortality as high as 50😵 is NOT gain of function research because the result is not yet known.
If it turns out that it was a lab leak then presumably the authority that is responsible for the labs protocols bears the lions share of the responsibility also if China knew about the lab leak and covered it up it’s responsible in part for the ensuing deaths along with any governments that carried on as if there was no threat for political and economic reasons when it became obvious there was a threat.
Fauci would be way down the culpability list unless your an idiot with an unrelated axe to grind on behalf of a foreign power.
02 Mar 23
@kevcvs57 saidSo if they create a more deadly virus they can say "we didn't know that would happen even though we used a deadlier virus to combine with" so it isn't gain of function. So here they have a deadlier virus they created but it is not GOF.
Hahaha that why it’s called RESEARCH 💩 for brains if they knew the outcome they wouldn’t do RESEARCH.
If it turns out that it was a lab leak then presumably the authority that is responsible for the labs protocols bears the lions share of the responsibility also if China knew about the lab leak and covered it up it’s responsible in part for the ensuing deaths along with any ...[text shortened]... e culpability list unless your an idiot with an unrelated axe to grind on behalf of a foreign power.
Is that acceptable to you? All they have to do is claim they didn't know that would be the result. The result should matter.
02 Mar 23
@metal-brain saidI’ve tried explaining the purpose of research but clearly you’ve got a preordained agenda.
So if they create a more deadly virus they can say "we didn't know that would happen even though we used a deadlier virus to combine with" so it isn't gain of function. So here they have a deadlier virus they created but it is not GOF.
Is that acceptable to you? All they have to do is claim they didn't know that would be the result. The result should matter.
Do you think Fauci was responsible for the leak ( if it happened ) do you think Fauci is responsible for China covering up that leak ( if it happened ) and do you think Fauci is responsible for your governments lack lustre response to the threat.
I’m also a long way from convinced that the research wouldn’t have gone ahead without Fauci’s involvement.
Should government agencies be financing potentially dangerous research in secretive countries where they have no effective oversight? Probably not.
@metal-brain saidIt’s not a from a lab, you blathering moron.
Since the Frankenstein virus is from a lab my government has decided to use that fact to demonize China in a propaganda campaign to turn the western world against China.
They are counting on you forgetting the fact Fauci funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab and foolishly blame China for it.
Fauci created the pandemic and should go to prison for it.
h ...[text shortened]... unveils-ukraine-peac.html
Don't fall for the anti China propaganda. Imprison Fauci the charlatan.
02 Mar 23
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@metal-brain saidThe link in your own Newsweek article from The Intercept says that experimental work was conducted "not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed". So there goes that notion.
So improving transmissibility is GOF too.
SARS2 is an improvement of transmissibility of SARS1.
Where is the missing link? You have no evidence of natural origin after all these years. After years of beating a dead horse you charlatan apologists came up with nothing.
How about releasing the emails from Fauci and Collins regarding the Zero Hedge article without re ...[text shortened]... le?
Don't you think we have a right to know?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57336280
Your link also shows the exact type of work done, which included screening people who worked with animals; no mention of increasing the lethality or transmissibility of the virus.
Since your own source refutes you, there's nothing futher to discuss.
02 Mar 23
@shavixmir saidWhere is your evidence?
It’s not a from a lab, you blathering moron.
You still have a missing link.