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AverageJoe1
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This is what I mean when I ask you liberals, do you really know what is going on? It is all designed to have us report our neighbors, etc. This what they do in Communist China.
We were profiling Muslims in 2001 and now Christians, in 2023?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dhs-producing-videos-teaching-citizens-how-identify-radicalized-conservatives

Edit: I think that this is a notable quote. The word "State" as used on the Forum has always given me the abosolure creeps, esp communicatin with people who actually use it in day-to-day conversation. Brrrrrr

“In terms of morals there is no such thing as 'state'. Just men. Individuals. Each responsible for his own acts.”

-Robert Heinlein

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@averagejoe1 said
This is what I mean when I ask you liberals, do you really know what is going on? It is all designed to have us report our neighbors, etc. This what they do in Communist China.
We were profiling Muslims in 2001 and now Christians, in 2023?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dhs-producing-videos-teaching-citizens-how-identify-radicalized-conservatives

Edit: ...[text shortened]... uch thing as 'state'. Just men. Individuals. Each responsible for his own acts.”

-Robert Heinlein
Everything you have said here is a lie, you sad little thing.

Taking the "scripted scenarios" displayed in the article at face value, they're clearly nothing like you say. One scenario:

You are an employee at a new bakery in Elkville. As the mayor walks up to the ribbon at the bakery entrance, you hear another attendee yell "baby killer" towards them. You turn to find the shouter and are shocked to see that it's Ann, a woman who you've always known to be empathetic in the past. Once at home you...

Choice 4B1 - Call Ann's husband to discuss what you just witnessed and check to see if everything has been okay lately.

Choice 4B2 - Contact Ann's preacher and ask about her behavior.

Choice 4B3 - Stop by Ann's house to chat and see how she's doing.

Funny, I don't see "Report Ann to the Department of Homeland Security" among the available choices.

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Alienation and isolation are fertile fields for radicalization, as is well known. The DHS scenarios appear to be encouraging simple neighborliness; that is, using community connections and friendly chats to help out people who may be feeling helpless, frustrated, or angry.

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@averagejoe1 said
“In terms of morals there is no such thing as 'state'. Just men. Individuals. Each responsible for his own acts.”

-Robert Heinlein
Just like there should be no such thing as the Electoral College. Just individual votes. Votes that actually count, unlike living in a red state where my vote never counts because it's "winner takes all". Why should my electoral vote go to someone I never voted for?

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@suzianne said
Just like there should be no such thing as the Electoral College. Just individual votes. Votes that actually count, unlike living in a red state where my vote never counts because it's "winner takes all". Why should my electoral vote go to someone I never voted for?
Shirley this isn't the same suzi that cries about 'whataboutism'.

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@wajoma said
Shirley this isn't the same suzi that cries about 'whataboutism'.
My post is a direct continuation of what I quoted. You're the one off the rails, here.

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@suzianne said
My post is a direct continuation of what I quoted. You're the one off the rails, here.
Please put us back on the rails with an EC thread, you could begin by defending mob rule.

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@averagejoe1 said
This is what I mean when I ask you liberals, do you really know what is going on? It is all designed to have us report our neighbors, etc. This what they do in Communist China.
We were profiling Muslims in 2001 and now Christians, in 2023?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dhs-producing-videos-teaching-citizens-how-identify-radicalized-conservatives

Edit: ...[text shortened]... uch thing as 'state'. Just men. Individuals. Each responsible for his own acts.”

-Robert Heinlein
so empowering citizens to spy on their neighbors on behalf of the government is a bad idea? gasp! shocking.



you are too stupid to understand my point so i am going to spell it out for you: I am talking about texas encouraging citizens to report women having an abortion and their doctors who provide them, ya filthy hypocrite.

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@zahlanzi said
so empowering citizens to spy on their neighbors on behalf of the government is a bad idea? gasp! shocking.



you are too stupid to understand my point so i am going to spell it out for you: I am talking about texas encouraging citizens to report women having an abortion and their doctors who provide them, ya filthy hypocrite.
Well, well, well, Mr Communist, who espouses citizen-spying. Is everyone ready for this dissertaion on Zahlanzi???!?!
Ironic that this article comes out today, showing life in a country where citizens can turn in a neighbor for any reason, and the polica will 99% side with the snitch, imprisoning the innocent neighbor.
I have been to Cuba, seen the flow myself. Just horrible. And you are really a bad dude to suggest it is not a 'bad idea'. YOU are a bad idea. Check this out....

https://nypost.com/2021/07/17/cuba-resorting-to-citizen-spies-internet-limits-to-crush-dissent/

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@zahlanzi said
so empowering citizens to spy on their neighbors on behalf of the government is a bad idea? gasp! shocking.



you are too stupid to understand my point so i am going to spell it out for you: I am talking about texas encouraging citizens to report women having an abortion and their doctors who provide them, ya filthy hypocrite.
In the 'Republicans Come Out" thread, top of page 8, Suzianne says 'it is none of (my) damn business". You are, conversely, saying here that it IS the business of a neighbor, what their neighbor does. You mob-sorts usually are on the same talking points, you got out of line here. Suzianne, by your logic, should report you to your leaders. Do you think she should, Zahlanzi?....Report you?
Now Suzy a bit ago asked me for a good answer to a question. Let's see what you can do here?

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@averagejoe1 said
Well, well, well, Mr Communist, who espouses citizen-spying. Is everyone ready for this dissertaion on Zahlanzi???!?!
Ironic that this article comes out today, showing life in a country where citizens can turn in a neighbor for any reason, and the polica will 99% side with the snitch, imprisoning the innocent neighbor.
I have been to Cuba, seen the flow myself ...[text shortened]... .

https://nypost.com/2021/07/17/cuba-resorting-to-citizen-spies-internet-limits-to-crush-dissent/
Indeed, the closest thing the US currently has to something like the Stasi secret police of the erstwhile German Democratic Republic (East Germany) is in Texas.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-abortion-law-bounty-hunters-citizens/
The Texas law that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy includes an unusual measure designed to ensure the law is enforced: Residents of the state can sue clinics, doctors, nurses and even people who drive a woman to get the procedure, for at least $10,000.

In effect, Texas lawmakers have deputized the state's citizens as bounty hunters, offering them cash prizes for civilly prosecuting their neighbors' medical procedures.

Hotlines from anti-abortion groups have already sprung up. Texas Right to Life, an anti-abortion group in the state, created a website where people can leave information anonymously about "aiding or abetting a post-heartbeat abortion." The law authorizes citizens to sue, and seek financial damages from, the support networks who help women get an abortion — such as families, friends, counselors, pastors, health care providers and more — rather than the women who are undergoing the procedure, experts say.

Because you are not merely a clown and an ignoramus, but also a hypocrite and mindless mouthpiece for knee-jerk right-wing talking points, I have no respect for you whatsoever. Begone, fraud and lie monger, and take your stench of unalloyed mendacity with you.

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@soothfast said
Indeed, the closest thing the US currently has to something like the Stasi secret police of the erstwhile German Democratic Republic (East Germany) is in Texas.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-abortion-law-bounty-hunters-citizens/
[quote]The Texas law that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy includes an unusual measure designed to ensure the law is enforced: ...[text shortened]... you whatsoever. Begone, fraud and lie monger, and take your stench of unalloyed mendacity with you.
Where does a post like this get you? Feel better? I guess I could get personal. I am quite sure that you know people personally who feed off the tit of the government. Probably you. I despise that. So, I guess we are even.
So, check back in to some posts, but leave your emotion at the door. We would appreciate it, since we do not know how to deal with emotional bed-wetting liberals. Oh, and the anger. Oh, the anger. It is so tiresome.
As to your weary abortion issue, why don't you join with me in shutting down Planned Parenthood, which I, as a taxpayer, pay for? You are aware, I am sure, that it is immoral to ask me to pay for that. One of my brothers is a catholic priest!!! You are ruining our dinners together! I am so angry, I am learning the ropes of anger!!!! 😠

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@averagejoe1 said
Where does a post like this get you? Feel better? I guess I could get personal. I am quite sure that you know people personally who feed off the tit of the government. Probably you. I despise that. So, I guess we are even.
So, check back in to some posts, but leave your emotion at the door. We would appreciate it, since we do not know how to deal with emotional be ...[text shortened]... ! You are ruining our dinners together! I am so angry, I am learning the ropes of anger!!!! 😠
If you ever get 'round to making a cogent point I may deign to take notice.

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@soothfast said
If you ever get 'round to making a cogent point I may deign to take notice.
If you ever find a post that you can (selectively) answer, please take notice, and answer?

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@wajoma said
Shirley this isn't the same suzi that cries about 'whataboutism'.
LOL...hypocrites.

how in the hell does one jump to the electoral college in this thread?

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