17 Aug 07
Originally posted by Rajk999Capitalism is a form of slavery as well and, indeed, you cannot enslave people forever. That's why people like Hugo Chavez present such a fascinating prospect.
I would like to disagree.
Commuism is a form of slavery and you cannot enslave people forever.
17 Aug 07
Originally posted by Rajk999Yes I have. And the way you put that suggests to me that you are going to pretend that you have too. But you're just bluffing. I live in Indonesia. It's a capitalist country. A sweatshop for the capitalist system, in fact. An engine room. I can see the reality all around me. Believe you me, capitalism is a form of slavery too. You should travel around the world a little. Broaden your horizons.
Have you Been to Cuba ?
Go see it and then we will talk.
17 Aug 07
Originally posted by Rajk999And the US is not too willing to have me move there either. I once tried to go to the UK (where I have a legal right of abode) and they threw so much red tape and costs at me that I gave up.
So is marriage.
The point is I can go to Cuba or Miami, but Cubans cant leave.
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17 Aug 07
Originally posted by FMFExactly how does Hugo Chavez present the prospect of freeing people from the slavery of communism and/or capitalism? From my view he is simply in the business of consolidating power towards his regime and setting himself up as dictator of Venezuela. The average schmoe will be no better off with Hugo than with capitalist exploitation.
Capitalism is a form of slavery as well and, indeed, you cannot enslave people forever. That's why people like Hugo Chavez present such a fascinating prospect.
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17 Aug 07
Originally posted by FMFI agree with you in a way. Capatalism does create a form of slavery because capital will always seek the path of least resistance which at the moment happens to be sweatshops in Indonesia and other places.
Yes I have. And the way you put that suggests to me that you are going to pretend that you have too. But you're just bluffing. I live in Indonesia. It's a capitalist country. A sweatshop for the capitalist system, in fact. An engine room. I can see the reality all around me. Believe you me, capitalism is a form of slavery too. You should travel around the world a little. Broaden your horizons.
17 Aug 07
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Originally posted by FMFYes if you are from another country spending money there, they love you and you can have a wonderful time. But if you live there and are a resident, it sucks. Most of the thousand opon thousands of Cubans that make it to south Florida on make shift rafts and whatever they can find to float on, will tell you that and the words they most often use are F@#k Fidel.
Yes I have. And the way you put that suggests to me that you are going to pretend that you have too. But you're just bluffing. I live in Indonesia. It's a capitalist country. A sweatshop for the capitalist system, in fact. An engine room. I can see the reality all around me. Believe you me, capitalism is a form of slavery too. You should travel around the world a little. Broaden your horizons.
17 Aug 07
Originally posted by UllrOh? Haven't you been following what's been going on in Venezuela for the last 9 years? Your bald assertion makes it seem like you might not actually be all that interested in what's happening.
Exactly how does Hugo Chavez present the prospect of freeing people from the slavery of communism and/or capitalism? [ ... ] The average schmoe will be no better off with Hugo than with capitalist exploitation.