Did gene vaccines ever stop the spread?

By the way... from the ultra-conservative SF Gate:

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/COVID-San-Francisco-staff-shortage-UCSF-16758335.php

Head of COVID response for UCSF's ER dept.: 'I have not intubated a single COVID patient during this Omicron surge'

On Saturday, in response to hospitals begging for relief from a massive staffing crisis, the California Department of Public Health announced that most hospitals and skilled nursing facilities can bring COVID-positive and exposed staff back to work without testing or quarantines. The staffers must be asymptomatic, are required to wear N95 masks and are encouraged to work with patients who are already COVID-positive as much as possible.

This news might come as a surprise to people who have been reading dire warnings about omicron and some public health officials’ pleas to cancel plans and stay home. Many public health officials have argued these measures are necessary to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed with COVID patients. Indeed, for the past few weeks, San Francisco hospitals have been in dire straits. But it’s not because people are sick — it’s because of staffing shortages driven by overly strict state quarantine rules, the director of COVID response at UCSF's emergency department said.

After reviewing the charts of every COVID-positive patient at UCSF hospitals on Jan. 4, Dr. Jeanne Noble, an associate professor of emergency medicine at UCSF, determined that 70% of them were in the hospital for other reasons.

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"The crisis from the Omicron peak is not generated by serious COVID illness in regions with highly vaxxed populations," Noble wrote in an email to SFGATE. "The crisis we are suffering in the Bay Area is largely driven by disruptive COVID policies that encourage asymptomatic testing and subsequent quarantines. … The vast majority of COVID-plus patients I take care of need no medical care and are quickly discharged home with reassurance."

It’s true that case counts are shattering records set last year, and Noble predicts the peak is still a week away. But fewer people are hospitalized with COVID today in California compared with this time last year. And, especially in highly vaccinated areas, few of those patients are actually in the hospital because of COVID illness. In LA, where 71% of eligible people are fully vaccinated, two-thirds of hospital cases were caught on screening for the virus, the LA Times reported.

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@sh76 said

In the population in the South African study, the Pfizer vaccine's effectiveness against infection dropped down to about 30% for the omicron variant, compared with about 80% against the variant before omicron, the scientists reported.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/12/14/1063947940/vaccine-protection-vs-omicron-infection-may-drop-to-30-but-does- ...[text shortened]... ff almost vertically in almost fully vaxxed placed like NYC and SF has made this point self-evident.

@sh76 said
For the same reason I get the flu shot every Autumn.

I don't think flu is going to kill me, but I don't want to get it a severe case of it just the same.

@eladar said
Why get a vaccine if you do not fear the virus?

@shavixmir said
Really? Two years on and the is still has to be explained to you?

@shavixmir said
What a load of bollocks.

Most hospitalisations are unvaccinated people.

@eladar said
Why get a vaccine if you do not fear the virus?

@sh76 said
By the way... from the ultra-conservative SF Gate:

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/COVID-San-Francisco-staff-shortage-UCSF-16758335.php

Head of COVID response for UCSF's ER dept.: 'I have not intubated a single COVID patient during this Omicron surge'

On Saturday, in response to hospitals begging for relief from a massive staffing crisis, the Califo ...[text shortened]... f hospital cases were caught on screening for the virus, the LA Times reported.

etc.

@trev33 said
Freedom of movement, have a drink in a bar. Seems like we’ve been blackmailed.

@no1marauder said
And "only" 2,644 reported COVID deaths in the US yesterday! It really is "minor" like you said, isn't it?

@sh76 said
Against the Wuhan original, the vaccines definitely would help slow the spread dramatically. Eventually, they would stop the spread as the R would fall well below 1 if most people were vaccinated.

Against Delta, the vaccines slow the spread, but are probably not effective enough at preventing infection to stop it.

Against Omicron, forget about it. The vaccines barely slow ...[text shortened]... "vaccines to stop the spread" is anachronistic at this point and is a fanciful idea against Omicron.

@no1marauder said
I'm confused; I asked for a cite from the CDC and/or WHO, not from NPR or SA. Last I checked their advice was still that the best way to slow the spread of COVID19, including Omnicron, was to get vaccinated.

There's no such place as one that is "fully vaccinated" in the US as you surely know.

@metal-brain said
" Last I checked their advice was still that the best way to slow the spread of COVID19, including Omicron, was to get vaccinated. "

Whose advice? Where is the proof that advice is valid?

@no1marauder said
The CDC's:

"We have the Tools to Fight Omicron

Vaccines

Vaccines remain the best public health measure to protect people from COVID-19, slow transmission, and reduce the likelihood of new variants emerging."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/omicron-variant.html

WHO:

"The most effective steps individuals can take to reduce the spread of ...[text shortened]... nd pandemics, over internet dilettantes with little knowledge in any of the relevant fields any day.

@wajoma said
No ones arguing about what you want to do No1, just don't expect everyone to kneel before your god, to follow your state worshipping religion. If you feel safe with a stupid piece of clothe on your face go for it, if you feel at risk stay home and order your food online, you wont be missed. If I can find an employer who is happy to employ me, and I am happy to work for them no need for you to stick your (masked) nose in, mind your own business.