Originally posted by normbenignSo the problem lies not with Obama, but with the office of President?
If you want to compare Obama to other US presidents, Cheney isn't part of that.
Most Presidents in recent memory have significantly ignored laws they didn't favor, in some cases attempting to repeal or modify them. Other tactics include failure to enforce, executive order contrary to law. Unlawful use of federal agencies for partisan ends.
Obama seems near the top on all of those counts.
Originally posted by KellyJayI was saying it is already dead.
Look at what is going on in US, the rule of law is ignored, the government is
starting to use the IRS as a weapon ignored, the government is spying on
Americans ignored, the government setup guns to drug lords ignored, the
debt of the this country is 17T in debt and climbing ignored, the boarders
are wide open and kids are coming by the thousands over w ...[text shortened]... ming, and it will not be good when it settles
down into every day life freedom is dying.
Kelly
Originally posted by DeepThoughtit goes beyond the office.
So the problem lies not with Obama, but with the office of President?
It was Joseph de Maistre who wrote in 1811 "Every nation gets the government it deserves."
This may be true, really, only for democracies. But supposedly, the US is one.
Originally posted by normbenignHere's a list of the number of executive orders issued:
If you want to compare Obama to other US presidents, Cheney isn't part of that.
Most Presidents in recent memory have significantly ignored laws they didn't favor, in some cases attempting to repeal or modify them. Other tactics include failure to enforce, executive order contrary to law. Unlawful use of federal agencies for partisan ends.
Obama seems near the top on all of those counts.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
Obama seems to have issued relatively few compared to 20th Century standards.
Originally posted by finneganI love how you single out Americans.
Depends which law you have in mind. Americans of any persuasion are not known for tolerating any legal restraint on their selfish interests. Try charging an American with war crimes for example and see how you get on. What Americans like to do is to impose laws that other countries have to abide by. On the whole, Obama is just a typical, common or garden ex ...[text shortened]... erican president and probably a little bit less appalling than his predecessors Bush and Cheney.
If the truth be known, human nature seeks power over others. Therefore, the tendency is to create laws to control people, and bend and break laws that infringe what you wish to do. That is why despotic regimes are undesirable.
Now that America has been "transformed" into a collectivist centralized state, they resemble a despotic regime more than ever before.