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Does Debate lead to new insights?

Does Debate lead to new insights?

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If I read some posters here I am under the impression that Debate is the repetition of slogans in the eyes of those "contributors".

In fact should debate lead to insights?
Should new ideas be created?
Should issued slogans be critically analysed?

And most importantly:

Should positions which have been shown to be wrong be given up?

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@ponderable said
If I read some posters here I am under the impression that Debate is the repetition of slogans in the eyes of those "contributors".

In fact should debate lead to insights?
Should new ideas be created?
Should issued slogans be critically analysed?

And most importantly:

Should positions which have been shown to be wrong be given up?
For a period during “The great suspensions” there was some nuanced debate, and yes, I at least came to understand why and how other posters had reasonably arrived at their position even if I didn’t share their position. It was a lot quieter though.
I suppose it is a quality over quantity of debate equation.

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@ponderable said
If I read some posters here I am under the impression that Debate is the repetition of slogans in the eyes of those "contributors".

In fact should debate lead to insights?
Should new ideas be created?
Should issued slogans be critically analysed?

And most importantly:

Should positions which have been shown to be wrong be given up?
It depends on what your goal is. If your goal is to win debates, nothing changes. If your goal is to engage in discussion, new insights will naturally emerge.

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@ponderable said
If I read some posters here I am under the impression that Debate is the repetition of slogans in the eyes of those "contributors".

In fact should debate lead to insights?
Should new ideas be created?
Should issued slogans be critically analysed?

And most importantly:

Should positions which have been shown to be wrong be given up?
It should, Pondy,

But people have agendas - often hidden ones. People also lie and deny.

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