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    19 Dec '18 21:451 edit
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-point-higher-ahead-fed-decision-134119551.html

    After we have seen Obama use the IRS and the FBI and DOJ to go after his political opponents with impunity, does the DNC also own the Fed?

    With an improving economy the Fed says it's time to raise rates, which then causes more down turn in the economy. Will the Swamp make sure that the economy is in shambles come election time in 2020?

    Is it all rigged?
  2. Subscriberno1marauder
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    @whodey said
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-point-higher-ahead-fed-decision-134119551.html

    After we have seen Obama use the IRS and the FBI and DOJ to go after his political opponents with impunity, does the DNC also own the Fed?

    With an improving economy the Fed says it's time to raise rates, which then causes more down turn in the economy. Will the Swamp make sure that the economy is in shambles come election time in 2020?

    Is it all rigged?
    From November 2017:

    On Thursday, Donald Trump announced that he will nominate Jerome Powell to be the next chair of the Federal Reserve board, an appointment that Trump has been building suspense around for weeks. “We need strong, sound and steady leadership at the United States Federal Reserve,” the president said during a press conference on Thursday. “There are few more important positions than this.” If Powell is confirmed by the Senate, he will take office after the term of Janet Yellen, the current chair, expires in February.

    [b[Powell, a Republican[/b], is a compromise pick who will likely gain the approval of both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate. (While Republicans outnumber Democrats in the Senate, bipartisan support will likely stave off attempts at stalling Powell’s confirmation.) Democrats would have liked to see Trump renew Yellen’s term, but will likely still vote to confirm Powell, who in his five years serving on the Federal Reserve board has supported many of Yellen’s decisions about interest-rate hikes and has never cast a dissenting vote on monetary policy at a Federal Open Market Committee meeting during her tenure. It is some comfort to Democrats that Powell will likely stay the course when it comes to monetary policy, concentrating on slowly raising rates and pulling back on the quantitative easing put in place during the Obama administration. And as Democrats well know, Powell takes a more moderate approach to monetary policy than some of the other candidates Trump was reportedly considering, such as Kevin Warsh, who is known as an inflation hawk, and John Taylor, who has recommended that interest rates should be raised threefold.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/who-is-jerome-powell-fed-chair/544742/

    He's a Republican, Trump nominee.
  3. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    19 Dec '18 23:58
    The point that Whodey would raise, though, is that after 8 years a whole lot of the establishment there would be Blue appointed. It woudl also be worth noting that everyone appointed by Pres. Bush II would be more of the globalist Republican persuasion and thus very amenable to deep state activities as well.

    He probably has very few allies there.

    And it is also a scenario where, as a non-insider who is working from a perspective alien to the typical ideologies that previously dominated mainstream politics, there are very few people in the Beltway that he can look to for support.

    This isn't entirely unique, though -- this happened for both Nixon & Carter. Both of these Presidencies tended to struggle because of it. But, I must confess, this isn't my strong suit at all. I really ought to read somoe books about these administrations because there are very important parallels here.
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    @philokalia said
    The point that Whodey would raise, though, is that after 8 years a whole lot of the establishment there would be Blue appointed. It woudl also be worth noting that everyone appointed by Pres. Bush II would be more of the globalist Republican persuasion and thus very amenable to deep state activities as well.

    He probably has very few allies there.

    And it is also a ...[text shortened]... ght to read somoe books about these administrations because there are very important parallels here.
    One doesn't need a complex, conspiracy theory to understand why the Fed is slightly raising interest rates from historic lows during a time of economic expansion.
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    @no1marauder said
    One doesn't need a complex, conspiracy theory to understand why the Fed is slightly raising interest rates from historic lows during a time of economic expansion.
    ... Did one present a conspiracy theory?

    Or did one merely outline that Pres. Trump does not have full control over the Fed..?

    Putting words into one's mouth is not something that one finds desirable in other ones or twos.
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    @philokalia said
    ... Did one present a conspiracy theory?

    Or did one merely outline that Pres. Trump does not have full control over the Fed..?

    Putting words into one's mouth is not something that one finds desirable in other ones or twos.
    I suggest you re-read the title of the thread as well as the OP. Yes, they certainly do "present a conspiracy theory" and a ridiculous one at that.
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    @no1marauder said
    I suggest you re-read the title of the thread as well as the OP. Yes, they certainly do "present a conspiracy theory" and a ridiculous one at that.
    Is it a conspiracy to believe that various institutions in Washington DC operate autonomously?
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    @philokalia said
    Is it a conspiracy to believe that various institutions in Washington DC operate autonomously?
    You regard the implication that "the DNC has full control" or "owns" the Fed as a suggestion that the latter acts "autonomously"?
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    @no1marauder said
    You regard the implication that "the DNC has full control" or "owns" the Fed as a suggestion that the latter acts "autonomously"?
    If the Fed largely operates in accordance with what the DNC wants because it is the character of the employees of the Fed, is that not also autonomy?

    Surely, the German government is autonomous, yet, they will also behave as stooges for the Eu by and large, because that is the nature of who they are as German politicians.

    You catch my drift, man, right?
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    @whodey said
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-point-higher-ahead-fed-decision-134119551.html

    After we have seen Obama use the IRS and the FBI and DOJ to go after his political opponents with impunity, does the DNC also own the Fed?

    With an improving economy the Fed says it's time to raise rates, which then causes more down turn in the economy. Will the Swamp make sure that the economy is in shambles come election time in 2020?

    Is it all rigged?
    Does the DNC have full control over the Fed?


    NO. The Fed is independent, your question is pretty ridiculous and becomes even more so when you consider Trump recently installed his own hand picked guy to lead the Fed.

    Do you think things through before posting this junk??
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    @philokalia said
    If the Fed largely operates in accordance with what the DNC wants because it is the character of the employees of the Fed, is that not also autonomy?

    Surely, the German government is autonomous, yet, they will also behave as stooges for the Eu by and large, because that is the nature of who they are as German politicians.

    You catch my drift, man, right?
    🙄

    This isn't worth responding to.
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    20 Dec '18 02:53
    @no1marauder said
    From November 2017:

    On Thursday, Donald Trump announced that he will nominate Jerome Powell to be the next chair of the Federal Reserve board, an appointment that Trump has been building suspense around for weeks. “We need strong, sound and steady leadership at the United States Federal Reserve,” the president said during a press conference on Thursday. “There a ...[text shortened]... business/archive/2017/11/who-is-jerome-powell-fed-chair/544742/

    He's a Republican, Trump nominee.
    He also appointed Jeff Sessions who stabbed him in the back by recusing himself so that Mueller could be appointed for the witch hunt.

    And if they don't turn on Trump, the Swamp will take them down like they do everyone else around Trump.
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    @no1marauder said
    🙄

    This isn't worth responding to.
    Oh, right, it is so far below you? 😀

    It's an argument you didn't anticipate.

    You went down the wrong rabbit hole, bra.
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    @whodey said
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-point-higher-ahead-fed-decision-134119551.html

    After we have seen Obama use the IRS and the FBI and DOJ to go after his political opponents with impunity, does the DNC also own the Fed?

    With an improving economy the Fed says it's time to raise rates, which then causes more down turn in the economy. Will the Swamp make sure that the economy is in shambles come election time in 2020?

    Is it all rigged?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-23/ex-plunge-protection-team-whistleblower-governments-control-markets-there-no-price-d
  15. Subscriberno1marauder
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    @philokalia said
    Oh, right, it is so far below you? 😀

    It's an argument you didn't anticipate.

    You went down the wrong rabbit hole, bra.
    It's too stupid to rate as an "argument". More like babbling.
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