Doge assistants to elon: none have govt experience!!

@no1marauder said
So far, I haven't seen a single one of his Executive Orders I support. I expect many to be ruled illegal and/or unconstitutional by the courts.

His proposal to eliminate any Federal income tax on Social Security benefits would save me a couple grand a year but unless he imposes other taxes or increases the payroll tax it will endanger SS' stability in the not too near ...[text shortened]... don't base my political views purely on selfish motives, I have to say I don't support that either.

I like them all, and I expect a majority of them to be approved. They all make sense from a conservative point of view, do they not? What could a conservative find unacceptable about the improvements to our society and our government that he proposes? What should a conservative not like? There may be one, I have just not seen it. Why would a conservative think it would be acceptable for Lia Thomas, a man-boy, to compete with women/girls in female swimming events. Cmmon sense is that he has unfair advantage. Libs love to throw the word fair around, so can you square all that with this humble conservative?

Secondly, you take the SS tax elimination out of context. He does indeed consider tariffs to be a source of revenue offsetting such actions. He also sees value in leaving citizens with more money to spend, where liberals think the government does a better job of spending their money.

@AverageJoe1 said
I like them all, and I expect a majority of them to be approved. They all make sense from a conservative point of view, do they not? What could a conservative find unacceptable about the improvements to our society and our government that he proposes? What should a conservative not like? There may be one, I have just not seen it. Why would a conservative think it wou ...[text shortened]... more money to spend, where liberals think the government does a better job of spending their money.

It's not the President's job to tell private athletic organizations who can compete in their events.

How is such government interference in private business consistent with "conservative" ideas?

@no1marauder said
It's not the President's job to tell private athletic organizations who can compete in their events.

How is such government interference in private business consistent with "conservative" ideas?

President's? Organizations? What have those words go to do with this issue? Looks Like I have once again hit a liberal wall of denial. You cant seem to get to basic uman morals, where 'President ' and 'organaizaions' are irrelevant. YOu are government thru and thru, arent you.
You see, this is a human moral issue. Try ansering the direct issue like you and I had a son and a daughter respectively, and you want your son to get into my girl's swim meet. WHY are you so government oriented?

@AverageJoe1 said
President's? Organizations? What have those words go to do with this issue? Looks Like I have once again hit a liberal wall of denial. You cant seem to get to basic uman morals, where 'President ' and 'organaizaions' are irrelevant. YOu are government thru and thru, arent you.
You see, this is a human moral issue. Try ansering the direct issue like you and I ...[text shortened]... tively, and you want your son to get into my girl's swim meet. WHY are you so government oriented?

Jesus, you're stupid.

This is a waste of time; you obviously have no idea what traditional "conservative" philosophy entails.

And I've wasted too much time on your bigoted denial of the existence of transgender individuals; even Trump's SCOTUS appointee Gorsuch said discrimination against them in employment is illegal sex discrimination.

And it's YOU and Trump, not me, who wants government involved in who is allowed in athletic competitions.

@no1marauder said
Jesus, you're stupid.

This is a waste of time; you obviously have no idea what traditional "conservative" philosophy entails.

And I've wasted too much time on your bigoted denial of the existence of transgender individuals; even Trump's SCOTUS appointee Gorsuch said discrimination against them in employment is illegal sex discrimination.

And it's YOU and Trump, not me, who wants government involved in who is allowed in athletic competitions.

So I see you at coffee, and tell you that my daughter is going to be in a swim meet at the subdivision pool. 12 girls have signed up. You tell me you have a son who swims, and could he enter the competition?
I say, “no it is a girls meet, but I think there will be one for the boys next week. I don’t think you have to be living in this subdivision to enter.”
At this point in our conversation, I assume that you and I are civil with the results of this issue. But then you might say, “but my son thinks he is a girl”. Then I would say “what has what your son think got to do with this issue. It is a girls’ meet”. A girls’ competition, to see who can swim the fastest.

So this is my question. And I tried to phrase it along the lines of your thought process regarding gender issues. Frankly, out of deference to you, I use the word gender just then. That goes beyond the simplicity of my question so please just answer the question without the word gender. We are talking boy and girl, which, in one language or another,, has been used for about 10,000 years.Thank you.

@no1marauder said
Jesus, you're stupid.

This is a waste of time; you obviously have no idea what traditional "conservative" philosophy entails.

And I've wasted too much time on your bigoted denial of the existence of transgender individuals; even Trump's SCOTUS appointee Gorsuch said discrimination against them in employment is illegal sex discrimination.

And it's YOU and Trump, not me, who wants government involved in who is allowed in athletic competitions.

Should taxpayers be funding transgender comic books through USAID?

https://www.villages-news.com/2025/02/05/should-taxpayers-be-funding-transgender-comic-books-through-usaid/#google_vignette

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/70000-for-transgender-comic-in-peru-1-5-million-for-dei-in-serbia-trump-press-secretary-slams-usaid-amid-doge-scrutiny/articleshow/117907246.cms

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep/

@AverageJoe1 said
So I see you at coffee, and tell you that my daughter is going to be in a swim meet at the subdivision pool. 12 girls have signed up. You tell me you have a son who swims, and could he enter the competition?
I say, “no it is a girls meet, but I think there will be one for the boys next week. I don’t think you have to be living in this subdivision to enter.”
At th ...[text shortened]... ng boy and girl, which, in one language or another,, has been used for about 10,000 years.Thank you.

I am not going to call someone who is transgender the wrong term. Your question is besides the point since it assumes that transgender doesn't exist but they do and "sex change" surgery has existed for almost 70 years.

As to whether transgender persons have some "unfair" advantages in athletic competitions, I'd leave that to the sports governing bodies to decide based on scientific evidence, not simple minded bigotry. It's none of the government 's business.

@Metal-Brain said
Should taxpayers be funding transgender comic books through USAID?

https://www.villages-news.com/2025/02/05/should-taxpayers-be-funding-transgender-comic-books-through-usaid/#google_vignette

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/70000-for-transgender-comic-in-peru-1-5-million-for-dei-in-serbia-trump-press-secretary-slams-usaid-amid-doge-scrutiny/articleshow/117907246.cms

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep/

It wasn't through US Aid as I showed in another thread, but even if that's exactly what it was for it was a trivial amount meant to increase understanding of a despised minority. I don't consider it a BFD; it certainly does not justify illegally shutting down an entire agency which serves millions of poor and sick worldwide.

@Metal-Brain said
Should taxpayers be funding transgender comic books through USAID?

https://www.villages-news.com/2025/02/05/should-taxpayers-be-funding-transgender-comic-books-through-usaid/#google_vignette

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/70000-for-transgender-comic-in-peru-1-5-million-for-dei-in-serbia-trump-press-secretary-slams-usaid-amid-doge-scrutiny/articleshow/117907246.cms

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep/

Hey, MB. I am not sure how you come down on my query with Marauder, not that it would make a difference, but as rational man, do you think that his lack of response to my question is that of the reasonable man? He uses phrases, when we may be standing beside the pool, for god sakes, like "transgender, sex change, and surgery, and scientific evidence, bigotry and government" in his post just above.

I do not want to be contentious. I just think I deserve some answer by Forum standards. I try to answer all questions, he will not try to answer this most simple question. Again, we are standing by the pool, and we have this chat.

Any help would be appreciated.

Answering YOUR question, taxpayers should not fund said transgender comic books. For one pesky reason, it is not in the Constitution. Everyone is allowed to live by that fact. Another reason, which no one is required to consider, is that most people consider the status of a 'transgender' to not be normal, and do not see giving their money over to such people. How in the WORLD can people like Marauder justify forcing taxpayers to fund these people.
And my standard response to most every one of these insane issues??? What has that person got to do with me, or, what have I got to do with that person? What if he lives in Peoria? What if I do not know him, and I have no say-so? And why cannot Marauder answer these questions.? I cannot stand his incessant links. The would not be allowed on a debate stage. Duh, as my Aunt Melon would say,,,,Don't you Know?
He is the number one evader of all Forum posts, and this is just too much.

@no1marauder said
I am not going to call someone who is transgender the wrong term. Your question is besides the point since it assumes that transgender doesn't exist but they do and "sex change" surgery has existed for almost 70 years.

As to whether transgender persons have some "unfair" advantages in athletic competitions, I'd leave that to the sports governing bodies to decide based on scientific evidence, not simple minded bigotry. It's none of the government 's business.

Tell me more about sex change surgery, but first can you answer my question, as if we are chatting together in our bathing suits by the side of the pool, my having just put my daughter's name placard on Lane 4? ( I am assisting.)

@AverageJoe1 said
Tell me more about sex change surgery, but first can you answer my question, as if we are chatting together in our bathing suits by the side of the pool, my having just put my daughter's name placard on Lane 4? ( I am assisting.)

Your question assumes a transgender woman is a "man". Since that assumption is wrong, the question can't be answered rationally.

@no1marauder said

As to whether transgender persons have some "unfair" advantages in athletic competitions,

Funny how you fellers never say if a male still. has all his genatalia or not. Should you fellers not have a distinctive name for each of the aberrations.? Seriously.

But is a laugh that you say a male does NOT have unfair (let's say muscular?) advantage over a girl. Big feet for kicking, big hands for pulling water, bigger legs.....and oh, yeah, the muscles. I almost forgot to mention their abs and their gluts and thighs and sinewy calves.

No reason or sense for you to respond. This post alone wins the 'advantage' argument. Are you just not going to answer my swimming pool question? I hate to have to repost it,, maybe in another thread or start a new one, in technology, science , culture or sports forums.

@no1marauder said
Your question assumes a transgender woman is a "man". Since that assumption is wrong, the question can't be answered rationally.

My question makes no assumptions about the trans or tran thingy. So if you take that out of your confused thinking, you will find a most simple question to answer.
I will make it easier. My daughter is as straight as they come, knows nothing about sex stuff, for lack of a better phrase. She knows swimming. And, YOUR child is as straight as they come, and no one on our block, including me, knows anythiing about the phrases you keep using.
So, these two kids love to swim, and it is a girl's meet. Now can you answer the question? I have asked MB for help, but I would rather you.

@AverageJoe1 said
Funny how you fellers never say if a male still. has all his genatalia or not. Should you fellers not have a distinctive name for each of the aberrations.? Seriously.

But is a laugh that you say a male does NOT have unfair (let's say muscular?) advantage over a girl. Big feet for kicking, big hands for pulling water, bigger legs.....and oh, yeah, the muscles. I alm ...[text shortened]... it,, maybe in another thread or start a new one, in technology, science , culture or sports forums.

A male does whether a transgender woman does is debatable and seems to be largely sport dependent.

That's for experts to decide, not politicians.

@no1marauder said
A male does whether a transgender woman does is debatable and seems to be largely sport dependent.

That's for experts to decide, not politicians.

OK. Gottta go play golf, do you think there is a way I can couch my post, about you and the question, in those other forums without being kicked out? Is it kosher to copy a few of your nuggets into my post?