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@wildgrass
Um no. Not Happening. The rich are buying it 1. because they can 2. they wouldn't invest in a bad thing. It's the insurance companies who would lose. not the rich folks. If the seas were rising not one insurance company would insure a property that was doomed to flood / disappear. NOT ONE.
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@boonon saidUmm first you say rich people won't buy then you say insurers won't insure. contradictions.
@wildgrass
Um no. Not Happening. The rich are buying it 1. because they can 2. they wouldn't invest in a bad thing. It's the insurance companies who would lose. not the rich folks. If the seas were rising not one insurance company would insure a property that was doomed to flood / disappear. NOT ONE.
New Orleans was not below sea level when it was built. Now it is. $200 billion federal dollars spent on Katrina alone. The rich people will be fine. More are coming.
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@wildgrass
Again. NO contradiction. I said if your nonsense was real...... the rich wouldn't buy and the insurance companies would not insure ocean front properties. Please follow along.
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@boonon saidNo. Developers make money during natural disasters. Insurers just charge more. All are bailed out by feds in the end. No one takes any risk.
@wildgrass
Again. NO contradiction. I said if your nonsense was real...... the rich wouldn't buy and the insurance companies would not insure ocean front properties. Please follow along.
@rajk999 saidYes.. you do comprehend that the warming of the oceans is a process, don't you?
Yeah ... Im a hamster that can read
Taking into account countries' carbon-cutting plans, UNEP warned that the planet is on a path for disastrous heating of between 2.5C and 2.9C by 2100. Based just on existing policies and emissions-cutting efforts, global warming would reach 3C.
..2100 ..
Sounds like they want to implement certain things by 2030. The actual change in temps by a few degrees will take about 80 years.
So, if you want to halt the process, you need to slow it down. And the later you slow it down, the less chance there is of stopping it.
What's a 1% increase in water temperature X the amount of liters in the oceans?
How much extra volume will you have?
@shavixmir saidI have lost my place in this discussion. Are you saying that we humans can change the course of the weather?
Yes.. you do comprehend that the warming of the oceans is a process, don't you?
So, if you want to halt the process, you need to slow it down. And the later you slow it down, the less chance there is of stopping it.
What's a 1% increase in water temperature X the amount of liters in the oceans?
How much extra volume will you have?
@averagejoe1 saidYou've heard of global warming, yeah?
I have lost my place in this discussion. Are you saying that we humans can change the course of the weather?
Were you at least following up to that point?
@averagejoe1 saidNo. That’s not what I am saying.
I have lost my place in this discussion. Are you saying that we humans can change the course of the weather?
But, duh! Yes humans can change the weather. We can make it rain by sowing clouds with catalysts such as salt powder, for example.
No, what I am saying is that we can change global temperatures. And again, a great big DUH.
By stopping processes which form layers which prevent the Sun’s heat from escaping the atmosphere, we can cool the Earth down.
@wildgrass saidNow tell us all how much sea level rise is each year on average.
Now do a comparison with what it costs to move or levee all our coastal cities.
@wildgrass saidPeople are buying ocean front homes, banks are loaning money for them and insurers are not charging more for ocean front property. The reason is simple. Ocean front homes are not in any danger of being underwater anytime soon.
Umm first you say rich people won't buy then you say insurers won't insure. contradictions.
New Orleans was not below sea level when it was built. Now it is. $200 billion federal dollars spent on Katrina alone. The rich people will be fine. More are coming.
Sea level rise is not increasing at an alarming rate at all. If you bothered to do any research about it you would know that.
@metal-brain saidAs always, you are wrong.
People are buying ocean front homes, banks are loaning money for them and insurers are not charging more for ocean front property. The reason is simple. Ocean front homes are not in any danger of being underwater anytime soon.
Sea level rise is not increasing at an alarming rate at all. If you bothered to do any research about it you would know that.
For example:
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20sea%20level%20is%20rising,that%20of%20the%20current%20century.
Or:
https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/2974/cant-see-sea-level-rise-youre-looking-in-the-wrong-place/
On these sites they explain why sea levels are rising (which I’ve already pointed out) and how and where it is measured.
People still live in LA, even though it’s an Earthquake waiting to happen.
And remember what Itatus said on his birthday in the Autumn of 79 AD: “Don’t worry father, Vesuvius is not erupting. That’s government deep fake news. Herculaneum is perfectly safe. Do you see lava flowing down the streets? No. See. Fake news! AAAAGGHHHHHHHHH…”
@metal-brain saidhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/10/small-island-nations-take-high-emitting-countries-to-court-to-protect-the-ocean
People are buying ocean front homes, banks are loaning money for them and insurers are not charging more for ocean front property. The reason is simple. Ocean front homes are not in any danger of being underwater anytime soon.
Sea level rise is not increasing at an alarming rate at all. If you bothered to do any research about it you would know that.
Countries threatened by rising sea levels are asking a tribunal to decide on responsibility for pollution of the marine environment
In a landmark hearing, small island nations disproportionately affected by the climate crisis will take on high-emitting countries in a court in Hamburg, Germany, on 11 September, in what is being seen as the first climate justice case aimed at protecting the ocean.
As one of the planet’s greatest carbon sinks, the ocean absorbs 25% of carbon dioxide emissions, captures 90% of the heat caused by those emissions and produces half the world’s oxygen.
“Sea levels are rising rapidly, threatening to sink our lands below the ocean,” Kausea Natano, the prime minister of Tuvalu, said in a statement.
“Extreme weather events, which grow in number and intensity with each passing year, are killing our people and destroying our infrastructure. Entire marine and coastal ecosystems are dying in waters that are becoming warmer and more acidic.”
People from countries surrounded by oceans water know sea levels are rising at alarming rates.
@shavixmir saidNow tell us all how much sea level rise is each year on average.
As always, you are wrong.
For example:
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20sea%20level%20is%20rising,that%20of%20the%20current%20century.
Or:
https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/2974/cant-see-sea-level-rise-youre-looking-in-the-wrong-place/
On these sites they explain why sea levels are rising (which I’ve already point ...[text shortened]... m is perfectly safe. Do you see lava flowing down the streets? No. See. Fake news! AAAAGGHHHHHHHHH…”
How many mm? Come out with it. Can you tell us all without seeming silly?
@vivify saidThat is simply not true. You may be able to come up with some islands in the Pacific that appear to be experiencing alarming sea level rise, but the tectonic plates they sit on are being pushed down. The islands are sinking.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/10/small-island-nations-take-high-emitting-countries-to-court-to-protect-the-ocean
[quote]Countries threatened by rising sea levels are asking a tribunal to decide on responsibility for pollution of the marine environment
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People from countries surrounded by oceans water know sea levels are rising at alarming rates.
Sea level rise is not alarming at all. Furthermore, the climate has been a lot warmer than now in the past. Life adapted then and it will adapt now. It isn't a problem.
@metal-brain saidThe articles I posted answer that question.
Now tell us all how much sea level rise is each year on average.
How many mm? Come out with it. Can you tell us all without seeming silly?
But just take a step out of your rabbit hole for a second and reason:
If the Earth heats up by 1%, all the liters of water in the oceans heat up by 1%… and water over 4° expands when heated… what does logic tell you?