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@no1marauder saidSo you say that every impeachment is a partisan sham but then say that it is only I who does not care about the Constitution?
I'm sure you don't give a damn about the US Constitution's mechanism for removing officials who act with gross misconduct, so long as those officials share your ideology.
The Framers would have disagreed.
Moreover, you also say that the Framers would have been repulsed by the circus shows?
Sounds to me like I'm not the problem here and neither is Trump, and maybe, just maybe, the Founders would not like what the federal government has become.
But who am I to talk? Trump bad, everything else good.
@no1marauder said31 democrats voted to impeach clinton...you think you can lie about anything dont you?
No, it isn't. The votes to impeach both Presidents Johnson and Clinton were almost exclusively along party lines.
Perhaps you are inventing a new definition of "partisan".
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@mott-the-hoople saidNo, they didn't. At most, 5 out of 205 in the House or about 2.4% voted for an impeachment article.
31 democrats voted to impeach clinton...you think you can lie about anything dont you?
"Five Democrats (Virgil Goode, Ralph Hall, Paul McHale, Charles Stenholm and Gene Taylor) voted in favor of three of the four articles of impeachment, but only Taylor voted for the abuse of power charge." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
You seem to think you can wave around the word "lie" falsely at any time. Again, it has been shown which one of us is making false claims.
@averagejoe1 saidWhat's dead is democracy and the rule of law and the Constitution and bipartisanship.
Do your arms get tired?!?? Beating the dead mule? It’s over. How bout other topics.
I have looked at the flat earth homepage, and for the life of me, I do not see a coherent explanation which defeats the ‘round’ features which we know to exist.
Can someone entertain this question?
Oh, yeah, and McConnell's chances of reelection in Kentucky.
All hail King Donald I.
Hail Hydra!
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@earl-of-trumps said"In the bag". Funny you use that turn of phrase. Moscow Mitch has been Trump's bagman for the last three years.
@no1marauder
And you expected exactly, what? C'mon No1, this was in the bag before it started. Same with Clinton's impeachment.
Somehow I don't think you complained about Clinton's exoneration.
@mott-the-hoople saidOh, you must be so proud.
Interesting fact...This is the FIRST partisan impeachment in the history of the US. Comparing to historical occurrences is not realistic.
@caissad4 saidWe can avoid that by revoking the Electoral College NOW.
And another 20 years will pass and then a truly dangerous person will be in the White House and the precedent set by this impeachment vote in the Senate will enable them to wreck our country . Our democracy has a cancer which must be removed at all cost .
@whodey saidThere's hope for you yet.
So you say that every impeachment is a partisan sham but then say that it is only I who does not care about the Constitution?
Moreover, you also say that the Framers would have been repulsed by the circus shows?
Sounds to me like I'm not the problem here and neither is Trump, and maybe, just maybe, the Founders would not like what the federal government has become.
But who am I to talk? Trump bad, everything else good.
@mott-the-hoople saidAnother follower of Goebbels.
31 democrats voted to impeach clinton...you think you can lie about anything dont you?
You must be so proud.
@whodey saidI said no such thing.
So you say that every impeachment is a partisan sham but then say that it is only I who does not care about the Constitution?
Moreover, you also say that the Framers would have been repulsed by the circus shows?
Sounds to me like I'm not the problem here and neither is Trump, and maybe, just maybe, the Founders would not like what the federal government has become.
But who am I to talk? Trump bad, everything else good.
The Framers thought they had put sufficient protections in to prevent a conman, demagogue like Trump from ever becoming President, but later changes made that possibility more likely eventually. They would surely have thought that using appropriated funds as a lever to get a foreign government to help a President get re-elected was an impeachable offense, however, no matter what Alan Dershowitz or Lamar Alexander think.
@whodey saidApparently you don't, because you want nothing more than the opportunity to re-write it in your party's favor.
So you say that every impeachment is a partisan sham but then say that it is only I who does not care about the Constitution?
Moreover, you also say that the Framers would have been repulsed by the circus shows?
Sounds to me like I'm not the problem here and neither is Trump, and maybe, just maybe, the Founders would not like what the federal government has become.
But who am I to talk? Trump bad, everything else good.
God forbid.
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@no1marauder saidthats because you are lying!
No, they didn't. At most, 5 out of 205 in the House or about 2.4% voted for an impeachment article.
"Five Democrats (Virgil Goode, Ralph Hall, Paul McHale, Charles Stenholm and Gene Taylor) voted in favor of three of the four articles of impeachment, but only Taylor voted for the abuse of power charge." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
You ...[text shortened]... the word "lie" falsely at any time. Again, it has been shown which one of us is making false claims.
“The Republican controlled House of Representatives decided with a bipartisan vote of 258–176 (31 Democrats joined Republicans) to commence impeachment proceedings against Clinton on October 8, 1998.
https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+impeachment+bipartisan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
@mott-the-hoople saidActually you are. You said:
thats because you are lying!
“The Republican controlled House of Representatives decided with a bipartisan vote of 258–176 (31 Democrats joined Republicans) to commence impeachment proceedings against Clinton on October 8, 1998.
https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+impeachment+bipartisan&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
"31 democrats voted to impeach clinton."
No, they didn't. Voting to start an impeachment inquiry isn't voting to impeach.
Only 5 Democrats voted to impeach Clinton.
@averagejoe1 saidEarth will become flat again after Trump and his minions let all the air out.
I have looked at the flat earth homepage, and for the life of me, I do not see a coherent explanation which defeats the ‘round’ features which we know to exist.
Can someone entertain this question?