As promised...
Defiant L's
Covid19Crusher
Both got banned because the Twitter censors didn't like their politics, though it seems that they've capitulated and reinstated the former.
I've followed Covid19Crusher for 2 years and he consistently posted graphs, charts and studies that came down on all sides of the issues he was reporting on. I imagine his sin was that he linked to too many analyses that thought that the Drug Which Shall Not Be Named II (think horse paste is you're a CNN viewer) might help.
Though I'm firmly in the camp of IVM probably doesn't help with C19, banning an account simply because he neutrally and respectfully posted links to studies that might cause some people to possibly question the Saint Faucis of the world is insane censorship.
16 Feb 22
@sh76 saidDid Twitter give a reason for the ban?
As promised...
Defiant L's
Covid19Crusher
Both got banned because the Twitter censors didn't like their politics, though it seems that they've capitulated and reinstated the former.
I've followed Covid19Crusher for 2 years and he consistently posted graphs, charts and studies that came down on all sides of the issues he was reporting on. I imagine his sin was that he ...[text shortened]... hat might cause some people to possibly question the Saint Faucis of the world is insane censorship.
16 Feb 22
@sh76 saidYes!!! I knew we could find a few. Great detective work.
As promised...
Defiant L's
Covid19Crusher
Both got banned because the Twitter censors didn't like their politics, though it seems that they've capitulated and reinstated the former.
I've followed Covid19Crusher for 2 years and he consistently posted graphs, charts and studies that came down on all sides of the issues he was reporting on. I imagine his sin was that he ...[text shortened]... hat might cause some people to possibly question the Saint Faucis of the world is insane censorship.
I'm a little confused by the reason for the ban, though. There are hundreds of pro-IVM accounts on twitter (most of them are likely bots), posting hundreds of pieces of IVM misinformation, and they don't get banned. Clearly, the topic of ivermectin is not banned on Twitter per se, which was my point. Did these folks do anything else particularly heinous to break a specific rule of the platform?
In a little sleuthing, Covid19Crusher appears to have attributed fake quotes to public health officials in Japan regarding ivermectin. It could be this is the reason for the ban, because it is so clearly demonstrably false and defamatory. I don't know for sure though.
17 Feb 22
@shavixmir saidNot as long as you have their consent, some flowers and chocolates afterwards are usually appreciated but not compulsory.
Someone was banned about IVM???
Egg fertilization??? Is that a contentious issue?
17 Feb 22
@athousandyoung saidAs far as I know, Twitter never gives a reason.
Did Twitter give a reason for the ban?
17 Feb 22
@wildgrass saidCovid19Crusher Tweeted several times a day for years. If he mistakenly included a few quotes that turned out to be false, banning him for that is crazy.
Yes!!! I knew we could find a few. Great detective work.
I'm a little confused by the reason for the ban, though. There are hundreds of pro-IVM accounts on twitter (most of them are likely bots), posting hundreds of pieces of IVM misinformation, and they don't get banned. Clearly, the topic of ivermectin is not banned on Twitter per se, which was my point. Did the ...[text shortened]... r the ban, because it is so clearly demonstrably false and defamatory. I don't know for sure though.
Twitter only does this to people on one side of the political spectrum. They don't ban the "doctors" who claim COVID has a 10% mortality rate (I got into a Twight with a quack who was screaming that from the rooftops) or cut followers from blue checkmarks like Eric Ding who has yet to walk back his multiple screams in December how Omicron is just as dangerous as Delta.
All prolific Twitter users whose ideas clash with those of the political left will suffer periodic follower-culling, post removals, shadowbanning and the like.
I'm not saying Twitter doesn't have the RIGHT to do this. But my point is that they do it.
17 Feb 22
@vivify saidI guess they do it for high profile cases like Trump.
They gave one for banning Marjorie Taylor Greene:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/twitter-permanently-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greenes-personal-account-rcna10615
They don't do it for the Defiant L's and Covid19Crushers of the world.
17 Feb 22
@sh76 saidI think you undermine your point by saying the account "tweeted several times a day for years" because during all that time, tweeting nonsense misinformation, they weren't banned. Something else besides the ivermectin falsehoods must have violated twitters terms of service. I don't know what that was.
Covid19Crusher Tweeted several times a day for years. If he mistakenly included a few quotes that turned out to be false, banning him for that is crazy.
Twitter only does this to people on one side of the political spectrum. They don't ban the "doctors" who claim COVID has a 10% mortality rate (I got into a Twight with a quack who was screaming that from the rooftops) or cut ...[text shortened]... like.
I'm not saying Twitter doesn't have the RIGHT to do this. But my point is that they do it.
Plenty of ivermectin-pushing accounts still exist on twitter if you want to read about that drivel. The subject matter is not banned.
Also it a completely false narrative to insist that Twitter "only does this to people on one side of the political spectrum". Maybe this false narrative exists because of the one-sided news sources we all read, or the fact that politicians and pundits promote the "I'm being banned" narrative because it sells books and infuriates their followers, or because it's another data point to suggest that the man wants to silence you. It's all false. Here's the evidence:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ban-us-mid-term-elections
https://twitter.com/benjaminnorton/status/1348021933875601408
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/feb/01/facebook-youtube-twitter-anti-conservative-claims-baseless-report-finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/10/22/twitter-algorithm-right-leaning/
@sh76 saidHere's a web-cached tweet from Covid Crushers:
I wonder what Defiant L's warning looked like.
"Stop embarrassing liberals or else!"?
https://tinyurl.com/CovidCrusherTwitter
In that link, they're spreading Ivermectin misinformation. And this one below, they promoted debunked hydroxychloroquine claims.
https://tinyurl.com/CovidCrusherHydroxychloroquine
So they were banned for the usual right-wing idiocy.
17 Feb 22
@vivify saidI hate defending twitter because it's a terrible place. But, if Republicans who love to talk about civility and a return to common decency suddenly find themselves flagged by an internet algorithm -- what should an unbiased automaton -- is finding your comments on their platform are questionable, maybe some deep (or even shallow) introspection as to why is in order.
They give warnings prior to the ban.
17 Feb 22
@sh76 said
As far as I know, Twitter never gives a reason.
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/notices-on-twitter
Permanent suspension: This is our most severe enforcement action. Permanently suspending an account will remove it from view, and the violator will not be allowed to create new accounts. When we permanently suspend an account, we notify people that they have been suspended for abuse violations, and explain which policy or policies they have violated and which content was in violation.
So their policy is to give a reason though perhaps not publicly. Has C19C spoken since this suspension on some other platform?