Originally posted by RedmikeWell I HAVE been there and THEY have told me so.
You could also try going to Poland and say they let the Nazis in, or go to France and tell them they offered ne resistance to the Nazis.
See if that would be appreciated.
Can you give me a source for a battle between Poland and Germany?
Can you give me a source for the amount of French resisting during the occupation?
Originally posted by JeeSeriously?
Well I HAVE been there and THEY have told me so.
Can you give me a source for a battle between Poland and Germany?
Can you give me a source for the amount of French resisting during the occupation?
Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_September_Campaign
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#Resistance_and_collaboration
From wiki:
The use of "collaboration" to mean "traitorous cooperation with the enemy," dates from 1940, originally in reference to the Vichy Regime in France, and other French people who helped Nazi Germany.
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"Paradoxically, because of changes in historical education and the passing away of the war generation, the tiny group of people who do know about the Polish tragedy in and after 1939, is getting increasingly smaller. More and more frequently, the Poles face an unpleasant dilemma: they must either hide their sensitivity and swallow their pride, or appear overly idealistic and nationalistically biased."
from http://www.warsawuprising.com/paper/wrobel1.htm
About the two guys in the French resistance and all the others that joined in 1945, I really dont know where to start...
"Collaboration between American businessmen and Nazis in Axis Europe was paralleled by protection of Nazi interests in the United States. In 1939 American I.G. was renamed General Aniline & Film, with General Dyestuffs acting as its exclusive sales agent in the U.S. These names effectively disguised the fact that American I.G. (or General Aniline & Film) was an important producer of major war materials, including atabrine, magnesium, and synthetic rubber. Restrictive agreements with its German parent I.G. Farben reduced American supplies of these military products during World War II."
from http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_11.htm
Originally posted by JeeEh?
From wiki:
The use of "collaboration" to mean "traitorous cooperation with the enemy," dates from 1940, originally in reference to the Vichy Regime in France, and other French people who helped Nazi Germany.
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"Paradoxically, because of changes in historical education and the passing away of the war generation, the tiny group of people who do ch resistance and all the others that joined in 1945, I really dont know where to start...
You claimed that Poland let in the Nazis and France offered no resistance.
I've provided sources which clearly refute these claims.
Your waffling about the term 'collaboration' and the rest is an irrelevant smokescreen.
You asked for a source, you got it.
Originally posted by JeeI'm not questioning the source, I'm questioning the relevance.
My waffling comes from your same source
Do you still claim that Poland let in the Nazis, and that there was no battle?
Do you still claim that France offerred no reistance to the Nazis?
From one single, junk-ridden post of yours on page 2 of this thread:
"Poland was not invaded, but let the German in, like danemark, Belgium and other countries. France didnt resist...."
"There's no point blaming Hitler for what he did"
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Originally posted by JeeWhile you're in the region and feeling bad for the Japanese why don't you visit the Chinese city of Nanking and see if they have a sense of humour in regards to the Japanese invasion of China and the subsequent atrocities committed by Japanese troops. Here's a little reading to warm your heart before you go:
Got to write down that joke and see when I am there if humor if internationally apreciated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
Maybe, just maybe Japan deserved what it got.
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Originally posted by JeeIt is just ridiculous to suggest that Poland, France, Denmark, Belgium, etc. did not at least try to defend their countries from German invasion. No denying that they all got their arse kicked but they did at least shoot back.
Well I HAVE been there and THEY have told me so.
Can you give me a source for a battle between Poland and Germany?
Can you give me a source for the amount of French resisting during the occupation?
Originally posted by UllrBad japanese, I am sure americans will never do something like that.
While you're in the region and feeling bad for the Japanese why don't you visit the Chinese city of Nanking and see if they have a sense of humour in regards to the Japanese invasion of China and the subsequent atrocities committed by Japanese troops. Here's a little reading to warm your heart before you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
Maybe, just maybe Japan deserved what it got.
Bad vietnamese kids throwing themselves at american napalm...
Eh, China is the next on your list, dont turn them into martyrs, you fool! Every chinese people have slept with Osama (the source is being written, hold on) and are readdy to launch their weapon of mass destruction with babies tight on them on the US.
Dont have Fox here, so just tell me when you'll be order to think that they are the new bad ones.
Originally posted by JeeNothing more to say about France and Poland then?
Bad japanese, I am sure americans will never do something like that.
Bad vietnamese kids throwing themselves at american napalm...
Eh, China is the next on your list, dont turn them into martyrs, you fool! Every chinese people have slept with Osama (the source is being written, hold on) and are readdy to launch their weapon of mass destruction with babies ...[text shortened]... nt have Fox here, so just tell me when you'll be order to think that they are the new bad ones.
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Originally posted by JeeCorrect, the Americans never did something quite like the Japanese rape of Nanking.
Bad japanese, I am sure americans will never do something like that.
Bad vietnamese kids throwing themselves at american napalm...
Eh, China is the next on your list, dont turn them into martyrs, you fool! Every chinese people have slept with Osama (the source is being written, hold on) and are readdy to launch their weapon of mass destruction with babies ...[text shortened]... nt have Fox here, so just tell me when you'll be order to think that they are the new bad ones.
Agreed that America should have stayed out of Vietnam. It is a prime example of American foreign policy at its worse.
I don't have a list and I don't watch Fox news or O'Reilly or listen to any other political loudmouth pundit on TV or radio. I tend to like to form my own opinions.