Former MI6 spy Christopher Steele

@no1marauder said
The "truth"? There's very little "truth" in this post.

A) Steele isn't a "British spy"; he hasn't worked for MI6 since 2009;

B) AFAIK Steele hasn't told the USA "how to run our government ";

C) While some of the more salacious information in the dossier hasn't been verified, the basic story outlined in it i.e. that the Russians meddled in the 2016 election in the ...[text shortened]... ut work to a foreign national isn't any different than Trump Industries hiring a Mexican dishwasher.

I am well aware that Steele is retired from MI6. Rinat Akhmetshin is retired from Russian intelligence as well. Are you willing to accept he has no ties to the Russian government?

Your newsweek link is inaccurate. There is no evidence Russia hacked contrary to their claim. We have been over this before, but you refuse to believe Russia hires competent hackers that cannot be tracked. Your whole argument is based on the assumption Russian intelligence is incompetent.

"No, it isn't the job of the FBI to "investigate politics" unless and until there is credible information suggesting corruption."

So they followed a dossier that had no factual information and investigated. The dossier has been discredited. Accept that fact.

Edit: Paul Singer's Elliott Management bought defaulted Peruvian debt for $11.4 million. Elliott sued Argentina for the debt's value through UK courts.

@metal-brain said
I am well aware that Steele is retired from MI6. Rinat Akhmetshin is retired from Russian intelligence as well. Are you willing to accept he has no ties to the Russian government?

Your newsweek link is inaccurate. There is no evidence Russia hacked contrary to their claim. We have been over this before, but you refuse to believe Russia hires competent hackers that cann ...[text shortened]... lted Peruvian debt for $11.4 million. Elliott sued Argentina for the debt's value through UK courts.

"No factual information"?? You really are a mindless Trump parrot.

Here's a nice read for ya:

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow before the 2016 US election.

Page revealed during his testimony that he met with members of Russia's presidential administration and the head of investor relations at the Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft during his trip to Moscow in July 2016.

He also congratulated members of the Trump campaign's foreign-policy team on July 14 for their "excellent work" on the "Ukraine amendment" — a reference to the Trump campaign's decision to "intervene," a representative previously told Business Insider, to water down a proposed amendment to the GOP's Ukraine platform.

The original amendment proposed that the GOP commit to sending "lethal weapons" to the Ukrainian army to fend off Russian aggression. But it was ultimately altered to say provide "appropriate assistance" before it was included in the party's official platform. The dossier says the campaign "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russia's invasion of Crimea and interference in eastern Ukraine in exchange for dirt on Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.

Page also disclosed that a Trump campaign adviser named Sam Clovis had asked him to sign a nondisclosure agreement upon joining the campaign — and that he discussed his Moscow trip with Clovis both before he went and after he returned.

Clovis has come under intense scrutiny over his correspondence with another early Trump campaign foreign-policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, who recently pleaded guilty to lying to federal agents about his contact with Russia-linked foreign nationals.

Papadopoulos was told in April by a Kremlin-linked professor that Russia had dirt on Clinton in the form of "thousands" of emails, and he emailed Clovis several times before the election asking to arrange a meeting between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Emails contained in newly unsealed court documents show that Clovis never shot down the idea — at one point even encouraging Papadopoulos to travel to Moscow himself.

'Incredible insights and outreach ... from a few Russian legislators'
The transcript shows that Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff confronted Page with an email he wrote on July 8, 2016, from Moscow to the Trump campaign adviser J.D. Gordon, saying he had received "incredible insights and outreach ... from a few Russian legislators and senior members of the presidential administration here."

Etc. etc. etc.

https://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-congressional-testimony-transcript-steele-dossier-2017-11

And of course there is the Rosnett sell off reported in the dossier:

In the intelligence report dated 18 October, 2016, Steele observes that Sechin, the aforementioned president of Rosneft, “was so keen to lift personal and corporate western sanctions imposed on the company, that he offered [Carter] PAGE/TRUMP’s associates the brokerage of up to a 19 per cent (privatized) stake in Rosneft in return.”

We do not know if Trump accepted this offer — indeed, there is no evidence to suggest that he was even aware of it — and Page has vehemently denied being the intermediary, or of engaging with Sechin at all (although he does admit to a lot of other weird things).

However, Rosneft did indeed sell off a percentage of its ownership — 19.5 percent, almost exactly what Steele had reported — this past January.[Actually it was in December 2016 - no1] The details of the transaction are predictably murky, with shell companies selling to other shell companies, who are owned by different shell companies, and so on to infinity. One reads the names of these ersatz enterprises — Glencore, Intesa SanPaolo, QHG Shares, QHC Holding, QHC Cayman Limited — and one finds one’s eyelids getting heavier, and one falling slowly to sleep.

https://medium.com/@gregolear/the-rosneft-commission-trumps-inevitable-downfall-will-involve-money-and-lots-of-it-81e87778288f

More details:

It is evident that Steele’s sources knew what they were talking about even if they unsurprisingly were not omniscient about the details. Vladimir Putin was looking for investors to buy up 19 percent of Rosneft but it was difficult because of Western sanctions. One solution was to convince America to lift the sanctions, and offering the Trump team the brokerage fee on the sale was their enticement. The day after the sale was announced, Carter Page flew back to Moscow, but this time he was subject to a FISA warrant and under constant surveillance. The timing of his second visit is unlikely to be a coincidence.

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When we try to assess whether the Steele Dossier is “fake news,” as the president insists that it is, we should keep this Rosneft deal in mind. Someone who was just making things up and didn’t have real sources could never have invented something so close to the truth.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/03/30/revisiting-carter-page-and-the-rosneft-deal/

@mott-the-hoople said
as new info surfaces, they want to know why he lied in previous testimony.

Why are you and Wajoma committing Russian agitprop? Are you two perhaps Duchess' colleagues as Putinist cybertrolls?

@no1marauder said
"No factual information"?? You really are a mindless Trump parrot.

Here's a nice read for ya:

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the ca ...[text shortened]... ttps://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-congressional-testimony-transcript-steele-dossier-2017-11

There is no evidence Russia hacked the DNC or any other hacks. That was the first thing mentioned in your link and it is false. Besides, why would exposing the truth be election interference? Debbie Wasserman Shultz was conspiring to rig the election against Sanders.
Funny how democrats think the truth is a bad thing, but I guess Clinton supporters would have a problem with the truth since Hitlery does. Jerry Zeifman fired her for being an unethical liar with no respect for the rules during the Watergate investigation.
The dossier has been mostly discredited. That is a fact. It was started by a Jewish vulture capitalist who likes increased military spending and support for Israel just like the establishment does. Then it was continued by a person Jerry Zeifman said has no respect for the constitution, rules for the house, the committee and of confidentiality.

@no1marauder said
And of course there is the Rosnett sell off reported in the dossier:

In the intelligence report dated 18 October, 2016, Steele observes that Sechin, the aforementioned president of Rosneft, “was so keen to lift personal and corporate western sanctions imposed on the company, that he offered [Carter] PAGE/TRUMP’s associates the brokerage of up to a 19 per cent (privatiz ...[text shortened]... the truth.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/03/30/revisiting-carter-page-and-the-rosneft-deal/

Catching wind of a Ronsneft stock selling is not surprising, but you have no evidence of who they sold it to. The reason for that is the US policy of allowing shell companies without a name on it. This is clearly to make money laundering in the USA easy. Carl Levin tried to change that before he retired and failed because the powers that be want it to stay that way.

This is just another conspiracy theory of yours. It is much like your conspiracy theory that Natalia Veselnitskaya works for the Russian government even though there is no evidence of that either. How is that any different than me implying Steele is still working for MI6? I have no less evidence than you regarding Natalia Veselnitskaya.

Emin Agalarov should be investigated for talking Rob Goldstone into baiting Trump Jr. into an entrapment scheme. It is obvious that is what happened. Only a fool would dismiss that.

@metal-brain said
Catching wind of a Ronsneft stock selling is not surprising, but you have no evidence of who they sold it to. The reason for that is the US policy of allowing shell companies without a name on it. This is clearly to make money laundering in the USA easy. Carl Levin tried to change that before he retired and failed because the powers that be want it to stay that way.

Th ...[text shortened]... Jr. into an entrapment scheme. It is obvious that is what happened. Only a fool would dismiss that.

"No evidence" again. You have a peculiar idea of that term:

“I am a lawyer, and I am an informant,” she told NBC News in an interview set to air Friday night, according to the New York Times.

She added: “Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russian-lawyer-informant-trump-tower-meeting-natalia-veselnitskaya-a8326456.html

@metal-brain said
Catching wind of a Ronsneft stock selling is not surprising, but you have no evidence of who they sold it to. The reason for that is the US policy of allowing shell companies without a name on it. This is clearly to make money laundering in the USA easy. Carl Levin tried to change that before he retired and failed because the powers that be want it to stay that way.

Th ...[text shortened]... Jr. into an entrapment scheme. It is obvious that is what happened. Only a fool would dismiss that.

Aras Agalarov, Emon's father, and the Donald have been buds since 2013. Here's a nice picture of the three of them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-man-who-drives-trumps-russia-connection/2017/07/21/43485a0e-6c98-11e7-abbc-a53480672286_story.html?utm_term=.67467e9c274a

Unfortunately for you the evidence shows what it shows; the Agalarovs were anxious to help Trump win and Donald, Jr., Manafort, Kushner and the rest were anxious to receive their help in violation of the law.

@no1marauder said
"No evidence" again. You have a peculiar idea of that term:

“I am a lawyer, and I am an informant,” she told NBC News in an interview set to air Friday night, according to the New York Times.

She added: “Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russian-lawyer-informant-trump-tower-meeting-natalia-veselnitskaya-a8326456.html

I'm sure she is an informant and not by choice. The article suggests she was always an informant but there is nothing to suggest that.
Don't you think Russian Intelligence wanted information from her as soon as they found out she was involved in an international scandal?

Again, no evidence.

@no1marauder said
Aras Agalarov, Emon's father, and the Donald have been buds since 2013. Here's a nice picture of the three of them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-man-who-drives-trumps-russia-connection/2017/07/21/43485a0e-6c98-11e7-abbc-a53480672286_story.html?utm_term=.67467e9c274a

Unfortunately for you the evidence shows what it shows; the Agalarovs were anxious t ...[text shortened]... ald, Jr., Manafort, Kushner and the rest were anxious to receive their help in violation of the law.

Goldstone wrote obvious incriminating statements in his e-mail to Trump Jr. It is like selling pot to a guy who asks "can I buy marijuana from you in an illegal transaction?" Wouldn't you think he was a narc?
I don't think Don Jr. realized he was about to do something illegal. If he did he should have been suspicious when Goldstone made the statement about efforts from the Russian government. I only mention Aras Agalarov because he reportedly was telling Goldstone to email Jr. Maybe it was Goldstone that set Jr. up and Aras Agalarov had nothing to do with the incriminating statements Goldstone wrote, but it was an obvious setup to entrap.

@metal-brain said
I'm sure she is an informant and not by choice. The article suggests she was always an informant but there is nothing to suggest that.
Don't you think Russian Intelligence wanted information from her as soon as they found out she was involved in an international scandal?

Again, no evidence.

Nothing .............................. except she said so.

In public.

@metal-brain said
Goldstone wrote obvious incriminating statements in his e-mail to Trump Jr. It is like selling pot to a guy who asks "can I buy marijuana from you in an illegal transaction?" Wouldn't you think he was a narc?
I don't think Don Jr. realized he was about to do something illegal. If he did he should have been suspicious when Goldstone made the statement about efforts from t ...[text shortened]... hing to do with the incriminating statements Goldstone wrote, but it was an obvious setup to entrap.

The Trump campaign knew that the Russian government favored Trump and there were contacts between the two for months before and months after the Trump Tower meeting.

Remember George Papadopoulos?:

In March 2016, while traveling in Italy, Mr. Papadopoulos met a London-based professor of diplomacy who has deep ties to the Russian government. The professor took interest in Mr. Papadopoulos “because of his status with the campaign,” court documents said. The professor is Joseph Mifsud, according to a Senate aide familiar with emails in which Mr. Mifsud is mentioned. Two Senate committees are conducting Russia inquiries of their own, and investigators have been poring over thousands of emails produced by the Trump campaign.

Mr. Mifsud introduced Mr. Papadopoulos to others, including someone with ties to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a woman who he believed was a relative of Mr. Putin. Mr. Papadopoulos repeatedly tried to arrange a meeting between the Trump campaign and Russian government officials, court records show.

“We are all very excited by the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump,” the woman, who was not identified, told Mr. Papadopoulos in an email. She was not actually a relative of Mr. Putin, according to court documents.

Campaign officials knew that Mr. Papadopoulos was developing contacts in Russia, court documents show.

He repeatedly tried to arrange a formal meeting for Mr. Trump in Russia. Among those in the campaign who knew about the contacts was Sam Clovis, who helped supervise the foreign-policy team, according to a former campaign aide. Mr. Clovis could not be reached for comment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html

How about Carter Page, who admitted to being an "informal adviser" to the Russian government (http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/), was part of the Trump campaign's foreign affairs team and was in regular contact with Russian officials?

Your "entrapment theory" is BS. The fact of the meeting didn't even become known to the public or law enforcement officials until the New York Times broke the story about a year later. It's an odd "entrapment scheme" that is kept secret from everybody but those committing the crime.

The Moscow Project lists 87 contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives in the relevant time frame. The list is here: https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

It states: None of these contacts were ever reported to the proper authorities. Instead, the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.

@no1marauder said
Nothing .............................. except she said so.

In public.

Before or after the meeting? If she informed after the meeting it doesn't mean anything. Any government would force someone to cooperate after an international incident like that. You are ASSUMING she did so voluntarily and you have no proof of that.
Then there is the fact Trump Jr. has not been indicted. That says it all right there.

@no1marauder said
The Trump campaign knew that the Russian government favored Trump and there were contacts between the two for months before and months after the Trump Tower meeting.

Remember George Papadopoulos?:

In March 2016, while traveling in Italy, Mr. Papadopoulos met a London-based professor of diplomacy who has deep ties to the Russian government. The professor took interes ...[text shortened]... . It's an odd "entrapment scheme" that is kept secret from everybody but those committing the crime.

It was an entrapment scheme. It was intended to be used to control Trump, not wasted to destroy him too soon.

It doesn't matter if Russia favored Trump over Hitlery. Putin already admitted that and it is old news. Nobody cares if people from the campaign had contacts with Russians. Unless it is the president himself nobody cares.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/13/hillary-clintons-team-met-russian-ambassador-says-kremlin-spokesman/