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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYes, because people in other parts of the world haven't survived hardships in
In fact, we should all be very thankful that men of faith founded America because, had all been liberals or Euro-socialists, they would not have survived that first winter.
any way similar to that of your founding fathers. U-hum. 🙄
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterQuite apart from your apparent conflation of the Pilgrim Fathers with the Founding Fathers, I suggest you read a little bit about the Levellers, the Diggers and the Peasants' Revolt before making the very lazy assumption that European socialism is effete.
Terrific -- more Christian bashing. I suggest you all read some history books so you can better appreciate what the founding fathers went through and how they not only survived, but prospered in an inhospitable, frontier wilderness, comforted and inspired only by their great faith. In fact, we should all be very thankful that men of faith founded ...[text shortened]... cause, had all been liberals or Euro-socialists, they would not have survived that first winter.
Originally posted by ZahlanziZahlanzi: "Christian religion (and most other religions) say that God is in all things."
as the great Chris Rock said, "all my life i've been searching for God. And all this time he was right here in my pocket"[the dollar bills].
I never understood why Americans would put God on their money. In my oppinion a country should not be catholic or jew or muslim. Each citizen must choose his/her own religion. And more than that, dollars should defi ...[text shortened]... hy doesn't General Motors put a logo on the fron sayin "In God we trust, may we not crash"
Not quite. God and His Creation are separate entities in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. You're talking about animism.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIvanhoe.. a bit anal on interpretation.... most open minded of any faith would embrace the :god in all things line. Or is a chocolate shake not a chocolate shake cause it has Sugar and milk in it?
Zahlanzi: "Christian religion (and most other religions) say that God is in all things."
Not quite. God and His Creation are separate entities in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. You're talking about animism.
Originally posted by mochironGod and his Creation are seperate entities. That's it ..... it has nothing to do with open or closedmindedness.
Ivanhoe.. a bit anal on interpretation.... most open minded of any faith would embrace the :god in all things line. Or is a chocolate shake not a chocolate shake cause it has Sugar and milk in it?
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Originally posted by ivanhoeGuess it's the same way with the Church, right? Why linger on the past? Let's do things how we feel we should right now. Gay Bishops!
See what I mean ?
Women cardinals! "Thou shalt not steal" unless you can give a good reason for it!
The USA has a Constitution, which shows that ignoring our history matters and our purpose for being a nation are not things that are intended to be changed whimsically.
I'm glad you aren't arguing that the US was established as a Christian country but are rather suggesting the nation be hijacked by Christians despite what the country has always been meant to stand for by those who established it - a non-religious nation.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThe people who first landed in America were not the Founding Fathers, and indeed were about as incompetent as one could get. They were rescued by the native inhabitants and then went on to slaughter and rob the same people who were so kind to them.
Terrific -- more Christian bashing. I suggest you all read some history books so you can better appreciate what the founding fathers went through and how they not only survived, but prospered in an inhospitable, frontier wilderness, comforted and inspired only by their great faith. In fact, we should all be very thankful that men of faith founded ...[text shortened]... cause, had all been liberals or Euro-socialists, they would not have survived that first winter.
That is a pretty Christian thing to do, based on history I think. GWB has been doing the same thing in Iraq. Have you heard of the massive levels of corruption going on with respect to who gets the money dedicated for the rebuilding of Iraq? It's really bad.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIs the Christian god believed to be omnipresent?
Zahlanzi: "Christian religion (and most other religions) say that God is in all things."
Not quite. God and His Creation are separate entities in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. You're talking about animism.
God and His Creation being separate entities does not preclude God being in all things.
Originally posted by Diet CokeWhat's this? I female who is obsessed with Diet Coke, finds Christian influence annoying and who has a British accent?!
My country was hijacked by Christians, then they took over our fesitivals and claimed they were Christian.
Kill a Christian for mommie.
Tell me you're into polyamory, libertarianism and marijuana and I'll declare us soul mates.
Well as long as you look good too.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterHalf the settlers died in the first winter because they didn't know how to build adequate shelter. The wilderness became a lot less inhospitable once native Americans had taught the colonists how to farm in American conditions.
I suggest you all read some history books so you can better appreciate what the founding fathers went through and how they not only survived, but prospered in an inhospitable, frontier wilderness, comforted and inspired only by their great faith. In fact, we should all be very thankful that men of faith founded America because, had all been liberals or Euro-socialists, they would not have survived that first winter.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageYeah, that great faith of theirs made them survive and prosper all right. 🙄
Half the settlers died in the first winter because they didn't know how to build adequate shelter. The wilderness became a lot less inhospitable once native Americans had taught the colonists how to farm in American conditions.