http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is there a "social" explanation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
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Originally posted by EsotericI think you have this one incident confused with something that happens with great frequency in the US. It is an exception and not the rule, and to say its a example of Christians in the US is pure and Utter cow droppings.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is ther nation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
One could say that this sect was simply carrying on a practice that had gone on for centuries.. in many cultures and parts of the world. After all, arranged marriages were common in Europe, India, Africa etc for a few centuries before the US was founded.
So when you start waggling yer finger and pointing at the US, check the back ground of your own country first. Have a good day
Originally posted by EsotericClue 1: They were in court. Unless the trial was about some yokel borrowing his brother's car for the day and forgetting to return it for ten months, I think it's safe to assume that the laws were against this arrangement and that's why they were in court. Thus, the laws weren't lax and were indeed being enforced.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is ther ...[text shortened]... nation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
Clue 2: This made the news and you heard about it. Were this an ordinary or acceptable event, you would not have heard about it. That tells you that the dominant culture finds this a horrible state of affairs. Tied shoelaces are acceptable hear, and thus you don't see a lot of news reports about people tying their shoelaces in the morning when they get dressed.
Clue 3: It's a huge nation. That means that if we have the same percentage of fruit loops in our country that England has, for example, that still exponentially a much larger number of actual people.
Originally posted by EsotericAnother point, this is old news. This was going on at least three or four months ago here in the States. The head of the sect was jailed as I recall for more than a few years for other related illegalities.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is ther ...[text shortened]... nation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
Frankly, your post smacks of hatred towards Christians as your attempting here to smear a large group unfairly. I doubt that you'd find many Christians who would think of the leader of the sect as a Christian.
Finally, how well are Christians tolerated in your country?, just curious.
Originally posted by EsotericI don't think this is so much a national issue as a religious one. You'll
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is ther ...[text shortened]... nation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
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Originally posted by SMSBear716You are avoiding the question.
Another point, this is old news. This was going on at least three or four months ago here in the States. The head of the sect was jailed as I recall for more than a few years for other related illegalities.
Frankly, your post smacks of hatred towards Christians as your attempting here to smear a large group unfairly. I doubt that you'd find many Christ ...[text shortened]... t as a Christian.
Finally, how well are Christians tolerated in your country?, just curious.
Originally posted by EsotericNo sir, your trying to make up some trumped up BS case for slamming Christians based on the actions of a extremely small group of people in the US. As you been informed , the man involved in this incident is locked up .. he is in prison. The American justice system worked and he was convicted of his crimes. Something else you wanted done to him?
You are avoiding the question.
Its you who avoided my question, how much tolerance is there for Christians in your country?
Originally posted by EsotericYou know, the other day I was wondering why are there were so many heathens in Europe?
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is ther ...[text shortened]... nation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
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Originally posted by SMSBear716SMSBear716, I don't think he was 'slamming' christianity as a whole -- just posing the question as to why christian extremists find such a home in the U.S.
No sir, your trying to make up some trumped up BS case for slamming Christians based on the actions of a extremely small group of people in the US. As you been informed , the man involved in this incident is locked up .. he is in prison. The American justice system worked and he was convicted of his crimes. Something else you wanted done to him?
Its you who avoided my question, how much tolerance is there for Christians in your country?
And yes, this is a thing of european past (emphasis on the past) but I do believe, as you said, that this happened in Utah about four months ago.
The term 'Christian' gets thrown about very irresponsibly in today's world. I for one, can not see how George W. Bush claims to be a Christian.
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou probably didn't expect a serious answer to this question. Then again you probably don't know what a heathen is.
You know, the other day I was wondering why are there were so many heathens in Europe?
But to answer your question there about as many heathens here in the United States as there is in Europe. In Europe the highest concentration of those that follow the "old religion" is in Iceland in terms of percentage of the population. Of course the reason for this is that they were the last to convert to Christianity and as a result Iceland is the main source of information concerning heathen lore. The overall numbers are small on both sides of the ocean. You're talking thousands not tens of thousands.
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Originally posted by EsotericWell to answer your question, it has alot to do with the lack of religious persecution that is more prevalent in other countries. But keep in mind that there are a high number of religious extremists in all countries and as many people here on this site keep bringing up that not all Muslims are extremists, nor are Christians. But as a nation polygomy is by no means legal and if caught you will be brought up on charges.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296005
"The leader of the largest US polygamist sect who arranged a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, told the girl it was her religious duty to give herself "mind, body and soul" to her husband, a Utah court heard."
Why are there so many religious extremists in the US? Is ther nation for this, or are there lax laws when it comes to "Christian" religious extremism?
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Originally posted by twhiteheadThe word heathen derives from an old English word meaning "dweller on the heath." In other words, someone who lives away from the city. However it was used by Christians to describe the people and the religion of the pre-christian Germanic tribes in Europe including Scandinavia. For reference refer to the works of 19th century scholars Jacob Grimm "Teutonic Mythology" and Viktor Rydberg "Researches into Teutonic Mythology".
I thought atheists like me were heathens. Do you have a different definition? Where did you get your definition?
The last outpost of this religion was Iceland. Iceland did not convert to Christianity until the year 1000 and as such much of the folklore and mythology was preserved. The modern day practice of this religion is typcially called "Asatru" which in old Norse simply means "True to the Gods". There are folks in both Europe and North America that practice this religion in small numbers. It is officially recognized by the government in Iceland. Those are the heathens I am referring to.
The more popular and modern day use of the word heathen is anyone that does not follow one of the Abrahamic religion including Atheists. I believe this very loose definition of the word heathen also happens to be incorrect. But many will use it in that way as a convenience.
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Originally posted by SMSBear716If you read the article you would see he is not locked up but on trial at the moment. And you are completely missing the point of my post. So take time to read things before shooting your mouth off like an idiot.
No sir, your trying to make up some trumped up BS case for slamming Christians based on the actions of a extremely small group of people in the US. As you been informed , the man involved in this incident is locked up .. he is in prison. The American justice system worked and he was convicted of his crimes. Something else you wanted done to him?
Its you who avoided my question, how much tolerance is there for Christians in your country?
By the way, there is a high tolerance for all religions in my country. But you don’t even know what country I come from.