Originally posted by Ian68Indeed, fair enough. You need to try and be as clear as possible posting on these forums, since it can be very difficult to understand people's point of view without their body language.
The reason I brought up the cooling effect of global dimming is because a lot of people dismiss the extent of global warming as negligible. In doing this they fail to understand that there has been another phenomenon hiding the true extent. This is especially critical now, as recent advances in so called 'clean fuels' are reducing global dimming but not global warming.
Can someone please tell me how CO2 gets up to the atmosphere from down here in the first place? After all, it is heavier than all atmospheric gases:
N2 (the most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 28amu
O2 (2nd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 32amu
Ar (3rd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 36amu
CO2 (least common atmo. gas) - RAM = 44amu
Note that the reason there is less of the heavier elements in the atmosphere is that they "sink" due to the fact that they are heavier. This results in CO2 naturally making up just 0.03% of the atmosphere. This figure cannot be increased by terrestrial sources as CO2 emissions from such sources "sink" to a level where CO2 is easily absorbed (by plants).
Therefore, humans are incapable of causing atmospheric changes by means of CO2 emissions.
Originally posted by princeoforangeTake your pills, nutcase.
Can someone please tell me how CO2 gets up to the atmosphere from down here in the first place? After all, it is heavier than all atmospheric gases:
N2 (the most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 28amu
O2 (2nd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 32amu
Ar (3rd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 36amu
CO2 (least common atmo. gas) - RAM = 44amu
Note that the re ...[text shortened]... .
Therefore, humans are incapable of causing atmospheric changes by means of CO2 emissions.
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Originally posted by princeoforangeAbsorbtion of CO2 by plants requires that there is sufficient plant life to absorb the amount of CO2 present. I assume you have heard of deforestation, and are aware that during the industrial era the amount of CO2 being absorbed has decreased while the amount of CO2 being produced has increased. Also with respect to CO2 being heavier than other gases in atmosphere and thus sinking, the closer to the earth's surface a greenhouse gas is present the lower the concentration needed to form a complete barrier around the planet.
Can someone please tell me how CO2 gets up to the atmosphere from down here in the first place? After all, it is heavier than all atmospheric gases:
N2 (the most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 28amu
O2 (2nd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 32amu
Ar (3rd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 36amu
CO2 (least common atmo. gas) - RAM = 44amu
Note that the re ...[text shortened]... .
Therefore, humans are incapable of causing atmospheric changes by means of CO2 emissions.
BANGOR, ME, United States (UPI) -- The general manager of two TV stations in Maine has ordered his news department to stop covering global warming until 'Bar Harbor is underwater.'
Michael Palmer told the joint news staff of WVII and WFVX in an e-mail that global warming stories are like '`the killer African bee scare` from the 1970s or, more recently, the Y2K scare when everyone`s computer was going to self-destruct.'
A copy of the e-mail was sent to The New York Times, which said Palmer did not respond to a request for comment. A former staff member told the newspaper Palmer`s e-mail went out after the stations broadcast a report on Al Gore`s movie, 'An Inconvenient Truth.'
Palmer called the news report a commercial for Gore. He said the global warming issue had 'evolved from hard science into hard politics' and 'this science is far from conclusive.'
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterAnd your point is?
BANGOR, ME, United States (UPI) -- The general manager of two TV stations in Maine has ordered his news department to stop covering global warming until 'Bar Harbor is underwater.'
Michael Palmer told the joint news staff of WVII and WFVX in an e-mail that global warming stories are like '`the killer African bee scare` from the 1970s or, more ...[text shortened]... olved from hard science into hard politics' and 'this science is far from conclusive.'
Originally posted by Ian681)Quite true, I feel deforestation is not good, however I don't think it is going on to the extent that it will affect the atmospheric balance of the globe.
10Absorbtion of CO2 by plants requires that there is sufficient plant life to absorb the amount of CO2 present. I assume you have heard of deforestation, and are aware that during the industrial era the amount of CO2 being absorbed has decreased while the amount of CO2 being produced has increased.
2)Also with respect to CO2 being heavier than other gases in ...[text shortened]... gas is present the lower the concentration needed to form a complete barrier around the planet.
2)If (1) can be settled then (2) will not be a problem
Originally posted by princeoforangeWhat's the point? You're obviously a very ill-informed person. Go away and read up about the science behind the global warming debate, and stop making up utter nonsense.
Try an argument rather than a non-argument, the former tends to be more convincing and the latter tends to be taken as admission of defeat.
You do illustrate a point very well however, in that the vast majority of anthropogenic global warming deniers know next to nothing about science.
Originally posted by princeoforangeObviously they don't have wind on Skye. 🙄
Can someone please tell me how CO2 gets up to the atmosphere from down here in the first place? After all, it is heavier than all atmospheric gases:
N2 (the most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 28amu
O2 (2nd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 32amu
Ar (3rd most common atmo. gas) - RAM = 36amu
CO2 (least common atmo. gas) - RAM = 44amu
Note that the re ...[text shortened]... .
Therefore, humans are incapable of causing atmospheric changes by means of CO2 emissions.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhy not go out and look at the scientific literature then? There is not a single serious (publishing) scientist alive who agrees with you.
BANGOR, ME, United States (UPI) -- The general manager of two TV stations in Maine has ordered his news department to stop covering global warming until 'Bar Harbor is underwater.'
Michael Palmer told the joint news staff of WVII and WFVX in an e-mail that global warming stories are like '`the killer African bee scare` from the 1970s or, more ...[text shortened]... olved from hard science into hard politics' and 'this science is far from conclusive.'