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Originally posted by @kazetnagorrapoor fool
A great win! NAFTA now has a different name!
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople"meet the new trade deal.... same as the old trade deal"
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/stock-futures-climb-as-us-canada-confirm-new-trade-deal
02 Oct 18
This is a very significant difference:
EVANSVILLE, Ind., Oct. 1 (UPI) -- In a new trade deal, Canada conceded a major sticking point in the negotiations with the United States by agreeing to open its dairy market to U.S. milk exports.
Canada uses high tariffs to keep foreign milk out of its market. This enables the government to control national milk prices, and protects its small dairy farms from international competition. The U.S. dairy industry, which has no such protection, has long sought free trade. President Donald Trump took up that cause during negotiations, often tweeting that the tariffs were unfair and hurt American farmers.
The rest of the article implies that this is all barely a win for the USA and a big loss for Canada, but I'm not so sure.
https://www.upi.com/amp/Canada-concedes-dairy-market-access-in-new-US-trade-deal/3881538414588/
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaPerhaps now you'd like to tell us all why American dairy farmers are still against this trade deal.
This is a very significant difference:
[quote]EVANSVILLE, Ind., Oct. 1 (UPI) -- In a new trade deal, Canada conceded a major sticking point in the negotiations with the United States by agreeing to open its dairy market to U.S. milk exports.
Canada uses high tariffs to keep foreign milk out of its market. This enables the government to control nati ...[text shortened]...
https://www.upi.com/amp/Canada-concedes-dairy-market-access-in-new-US-trade-deal/3881538414588/
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @fabianfnasIt's all really minor stuff and basically a repackaging, but if granting Trump a symbolic win keeps him away from the nuclear football for a bit it's worth it, I suppose.
Is it really the same? Canada seemed to hesitate over the new one.
What was wrong with the old one? What is good with the new one?
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @shavixmirYes there's little in the way of a step by step comparison in terms of winners and losers and the bottom line of net gain or loss.
Funny how there’s no real details of the trade deal yet.
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @kmax87There's a detailed article in the New York Times; most of the changes are fairly minor. It amounts to a renegotiation of a few points not a completely different trade deal.
Yes there's little in the way of a step by step comparison in terms of winners and losers and the bottom line of net gain or loss.
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraSo, why didn't Canada accept the new treaty without fuzz? Why did they hesitate?
It's all really minor stuff and basically a repackaging, but if granting Trump a symbolic win keeps him away from the nuclear football for a bit it's worth it, I suppose.
Was there any point in the agreement that was an disadvantage for them?
If Trump did win, then who lost? Why not just leave the Nafta as it was?
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @fabianfnasBecause it's all about Trump's ego and the Republicans' hatred of Obama.
So, why didn't Canada accept the new treaty without fuzz? Why did they hesitate?
Was there any point in the agreement that was an disadvantage for them?
If Trump did win, then who lost? Why not just leave the Nafta as it was?
During his press conference today, I lost count how many times he said the deal was "very, very big". He couldn't "leave NAFTA as it was" because he campaigned on gutting it and putting "a much better deal" in its place. Well, he gutted it for sure, but "a much better deal"? That would be a "no". The man thinks everything Obama touched turned to crap and everything he touches turns to gold. And the Republican Trump-bots love every minute of his new season of "The Apprentice: White House Edition".
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @suzianneIn another month they won't love him so much when the republican party gets gutted as bad as NAFTA was.
Because it's all about Trump's ego and the Republicans' hatred of Obama.
During his press conference today, I lost count how many times he said the deal was "very, very big". He couldn't "leave NAFTA as it was" because he campaigned on gutting it and putting "a much better deal" in its place. Well, he gutted it for sure, but "a much better deal"? Tha ...[text shortened]... ublican Trump-bots love every minute of his new season of "The Apprentice: White House Edition".
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02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @suziannea pure lunatic...see if you can spot the lunacy?
Because it's all about Trump's ego and the Republicans' hatred of Obama.
During his press conference today, I lost count how many times he said the deal was "very, very big". He couldn't "leave NAFTA as it was" because he campaigned on gutting it and putting "a much better deal" in its place. Well, he gutted it for sure, but "a much better deal"? Tha ...[text shortened]... ublican Trump-bots love every minute of his new season of "The Apprentice: White House Edition".
""meet the new trade deal.... same as the old trade deal""
"Well, he gutted it for sure, but "a much better deal"?"