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GOP obstructing Trump arrest

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@metal-brain said
They are mostly democrats. That is obvious.
Do you know what a grand jury is? That's not a put-down, I'm asking this seriously.

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@vivify said
Do you know what a grand jury is? That's not a put-down, I'm asking this seriously.
I looked it up. I don't pretend to know a lot about it. The secrecy seems weird though. What do they have to hide?


@no1marauder said
The DOJ isn't involved in the Grand Jury Trump thinks is going to indict him.
and you know this how?

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@metal-brain said
I looked it up. I don't pretend to know a lot about it. The secrecy seems weird though. What do they have to hide?
Grand Juries determine whether there's probable cause to hold a trial.

Juries, including grand juries, are kept secret to protect them from being influenced by outside forces. For example, if a Mafia boss knows who his jurors are, can you see why that would be a problem?


the only crime so far is the democrat DA LEAKING grand jury material


@vivify said
Grand Juries determine whether there's probable cause to hold a trial.

Juries, including grand juries, are kept secret to protect them from being influenced by outside forces. For example, if a Mafia boss knows who his jurors are, can you see why that would be a problem?
Yet the supreme court justices don't need that? The mafia can look them up on the internet just like you can. Why isn't that a problem?


@mott-the-hoople said
the only crime so far is the democrat DA LEAKING grand jury material
Is that illegal?

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@no1marauder said
What crystal ball do you possess?

There hasn't been an indictment, never mind a plea deal or trial, so what is the basis for your "misdemeanor if found guilty" claim?

In any event, it's still none of Congress' business.
so now we are all supposed to pretend we dont know this is a last ditch attempt to use lying kohen and daniels?

are you really that dumb or just shytweaseling again?


@metal-brain said
Yet the supreme court justices don't need that? The mafia can look them up on the internet just like you can. Why isn't that a problem?
Justices are judges and judges are usually public figures.

It is an interesting question whether judges should be kept secret; that would prevent their decisions from being influenced by politics or re-election concerns.


@metal-brain said
Is that illegal?
LOL...dayuuum


@vivify said
Justices are judges and judges are usually public figures.

It is an interesting question whether judges should be kept secret; that would prevent their decisions from being influenced by politics or re-election concerns.
SCOTUS judges are not elected after they are appointed. Those judges are exceptions.


@mott-the-hoople said
so now we are all supposed to pretend we dont know this is a last ditch attempt to use lying kohen and daniels?

are you really that dumb or just shytweaseling again?
There's a clip going around from a few years back in which trump's current lawyer is making the case that the hush money payment - no one disputes that it happened - was fair game for prosecutors to investigate and likely amounted to illegal fraud. I will find it for you, because I like you.

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@metal-brain said
SCOTUS judges are not elected after they are appointed. Those judges are exceptions.
I know but most judges are elected. Whether this should be the case or not is an interesting question. I lean toward they probably shouldn't be; or at least if they are the hearings they preside over maybe should be kept at least until the trial is over.


@wildgrass said
There's a clip going around from a few years back in which trump's current lawyer is making the case that the hush money payment - no one disputes that it happened - was fair game for prosecutors to investigate and likely amounted to illegal fraud. I will find it for you, because I like you.
Hillary did the same thing so that amounted to illegal fraud, but she didn't have her lawyer pressured into testifying against her. Cohen is the only reason they can prove intent.

Hillary's lawyer should be grilled until he throws her under the bus. That way we can prove intent and arrest her.


@metal-brain said
Hillary did the same thing so that amounted to illegal fraud, but she didn't have her lawyer pressured into testifying against her. Cohen is the only reason they can prove intent.

Hillary's lawyer should be grilled until he throws her under the bus. That way we can prove intent and arrest her.
Good. Do it. The inequities in criminal justice are the subject of another thread, but should not be used as an excuse for overt criminal activity.