Originally posted by Wajoma Largely thanks to fossil fuels, but if other sources come along, let their viability stand on their own un-subsidised, legs.
Why should alternatives be unsubsidized while fossil fuels enjoy massive subsidies?
Originally posted by Zahlanzi uhuh, and may i ask who gets this newly "inhabitable land"? will it be a "first come, first served"? will the russians and canadians be cool with millions of displaced chinese settling at the north pole?
do you also believe it will be a sudden trade? 1 square kilometer gets flooded on Monday and 2 sq km of Artica gets prime real estate on wednesday? o ...[text shortened]... e a killing. all those scientists living paycheck to paycheck because they didn't become whores.
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A nasty temperament and lack of reading comprehension, combined with inadequate logical reasoning skills make for a poor, though amusing, combination.
A nasty temperament and lack of reading comprehension, combined with inadequate logical reasoning skills make for a poor, though amusing, combination.
this coming from the guy who said that it might be ok if millions of indians and chinese get displaced because we might get equal or more land in arctica (ie middle of the freakin ocean).
i think i will recover from this sick burn. somehow.
Originally posted by Wajoma And I'll bring it back a 3rd time to the statement I was addressing i.e.
"Humans do not adapt well to change."
Humans far surpass any other being, insect or animal in adapting to live in any environment this world (or others) can throw at us. Largely thanks to fossil fuels, but if other sources come along, let their viability stand on their own un-sub ...[text shortened]... hem grow.
Edit: Please do not edit your post again, let your foot in mouth supremacy live on.
if the environment is stable we can adapt to it. over hundreds of years. when a mini ice age displaced the eastern tribes, the roman empire collapsed and the dark ages came.
also, "humans" is different than "human civilization". humans will exist in some form for a while now despite global warming. human civilization will collapse long before our extinction.
Originally posted by twhitehead I mentioned cockroaches because they are one of the insects that has proven capable of surviving almost anywhere on earth and have adapted well to human environments. Why you think this has anything to do with the 'left' is beyond me.
[b]Take a look around you twhitehead, everything has been shaped, transported, produced from, made possible by fossil f ...[text shortened]... s has nothing to do with the discussion doesn't win the argument, it just makes you look a fool.
People need to open their eyes to the obvious. Everything that makes your life better has fossil fuel as an aspect of it, you appear to be arguing for less of it and that it should cost more. If you feel strongly about it by all means follow your principles, the problem is when you folk start talking about forcing your ideals on others. You could start by recycling your computer, and sparing us your whining, At every step of it's manufacture there is fossil fuel, whether as energy or as part of it's physical make up.
Yes we've all heard the cockroach stories, living without a head, legs still flailing after half a can of fly spray, supposedly being the only survivors of a nuclear holocaust etc. But your point about them finding a home in human environments has kind backfired, the only way a cockroach survives the arctic is by sheltering in an environment created by man. If anything you prove my point.
Originally posted by twhitehead The problem is that the 'free market' not only doesn't really exist, but it doesn't take into account externalities.
Yeah right 'externalities' That's where person 'X' owes person 'Y' 'Z' amount of dollars as determined by person 'W' who would like to clip the ticket as the money goes through. The who, what and wherefores of 'X' 'Y' and 'Z' is a matter of voodoo, but 'W' is the guy with a franchise on force and threats of force. Followers of this religion get all het up when other folk see through the sham same as extreme god-botherers do with other religions.
Originally posted by Wajoma People need to open their eyes to the obvious.
Which people do you believe have their eyes closed to the obvious.
Everything that makes your life better has fossil fuel as an aspect of it, I know.
you appear to be arguing for less of it and that it should cost more. I bet you can't quote me on that. You are imagining things.
If you feel strongly about it by all means follow your principles, the problem is when you folk start talking about forcing your ideals on others. Again, you clearly aren't talking about me. Take your gripe to whoever you feel is forcing ideas on you.
You could start by recycling your computer, and sparing us your whining, Whining? When did I whine?
At every step of it's manufacture there is fossil fuel, whether as energy or as part of it's physical make up. And?
It would appear you are having an argument with someone not here.
But your point about them finding a home in human environments has kind backfired, the only way a cockroach survives the arctic is by sheltering in an environment created by man. No, my point didn't back fire at all. You just didn't want to get it.
Originally posted by Wajoma People need to open their eyes to the obvious. Everything that makes your life better has fossil fuel as an aspect of it, you appear to be arguing for less of it and that it should cost more. If you feel strongly about it by all means follow your principles, the problem is when you folk start talking about forcing your ideals on others. You could start by r ...[text shortened]... s the arctic is by sheltering in an environment created by man. If anything you prove my point.
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