@Mott-The-Hoople
Oh, you mean now the justice system is now tried by public vote? Majority rules Trump is innocent and ALWAYS WILL BE. Got it. SCREW the justice system, especially when our orange jesus is the one on trial.
@sonhouse saidweaponizing the Justice Department. Influencing an election,
@Earl-of-Trumps
One thing, we still have glaciers......
So you figure once an XPOTUS has been convicted by a jury it is automatically a travesty of justice BECAUSE it was a repub convicted, but OF COURSE if it had been say Obama convicted of the same crimes, note, crimes PLURAL, you would say, JUSTICE SERVED, OF COURSE HE IS GUILTY AS HELL.
But TRUMP? He is above the law and we ALL know it so there is no way that could have been a fair trial.
And yet, you are so proud. Screw America, as long as "DEMOCRATS WIN"!!
You go, boy
@eYe
So PROVE IT. Show us exactly where it is rigged.
I suppose the total lack of remorse on Trump's demeaner proves to you he is innocent.
Or he was totally right to attack the judges DAUGHTER.
Just like he and Rudy attacked the Freeman family falsely accusing them of voter fraud and his henchmen surrounded their home with bullhorns for months, THAT is totally ok because they deserved it, right?
And that QUEER Judges Daughter, look how UGLY she is so she deserved getting attacked.
@eYe
Unless it was either a guilty verdict of a democrat OR an innocent verdict if it was YOU being charged, THEN it would be TOTALLY fair.
In other words you are obviously politicizing the justice system since your guy Trump could NEVER commit a crime of any kind because he is literally in your mind above the law.
@Earl-of-Trumps
But it is just fine when Trump hid a story that WOULD have swayed some folks to not vote for him if the Stormy case had come out in a big scandal report a week before the election, which was EXACTLY why Trump paid her off to keep it quiet so he jiggered the system to do something the helped him IMMEDIATELY in his political favor, THAT is just FINE with you.
THAT is election interference and THAT is one of the reasons he was convicted.
But OF COURSE not a repub in the US would agree with that since there guy can do no wrong EVER.
And some 5 or 6 civilian court cases now proven to have been against him PLUS some half a dozen bankruptcy cases, all that proves what a WONDERFUL business man he really is.
@Earl-of-Trumps
TRUMP is the one influencing an election and that is why he was voted POTUS. And of course you totally ignore the fact he was impeached TWICE, but no biggie, the senate exonerated him which is BS, they were to frigging scared of Trump and had no balls to do what they really needed to do, kick his highness out. AND they now admit their error in not doing just that.
I keep waiting for Average Joe1 to move the goalpost, where he SAID he would not vote for Trump if he was convicted of a crime, I bet dimes to donuts he goes, WAIT TILL APPEAL, it will be reversed and all will be well again.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidTrump was found guilty of fraud with intent to commit other crimes.
strange you say it like that...no one knows what the crime is
@Mott-The-Hoople said34 crimes if I read it correctly, wouldn’t you say?
strange you say it like that...no one knows what the crime is
Ah. Yes. Perhaps you should read.
@sonhouse - "But it is just fine when Trump hid a story that WOULD have swayed some folks to not vote for him if the Stormy case had come out in a big scandal report a week before the election,"
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Like Bill Clinton didn't pay off women with his "Bimbo eruption insurance", Please.
Another case of Equal protection under the law, democrat style.
A presidential candidate's job is to "alter the election" in what he says and what he does NOT say. Freedom of speech
@Earl-of-Trumps
Whatabouthisism is not a great debate tactic, just deflection. That is not a defense of Trump. But you knew that, since there IS no defense of a now convicted criminal and instead of even attempting a defense of Trump, now the effort is to attack the justice system, blaming Biden when it is a STATE case as just one for instance.
But you knew that full well and don't give a rats ass, you just want a fascist as POTUS so he can kill democracy here which you seem to hate, wanting instead, an authoritarian government with no personal freedoms.
You may yet get your wish.
@wildgrass saidthere you go again…hillary deleted emails and destroyed phones that were under congressional subpoena …are you suggesting she didnt?
Hillarys emails?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidThe FBI Director said "no":
there you go again…hillary deleted emails and destroyed phones that were under congressional subpoena …are you suggesting she didnt?
"I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them."
"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system
This right wing fairy tale was put to bed in 2016, yet you gullible fools keep repeating it because Fox News keeps lying about it.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidYou do understand that this case was not brought by the DOJ, don't you?
weaponizing the Justice Department. Influencing an election,
And yet, you are so proud. Screw America, as long as "DEMOCRATS WIN"!!
You go, boy
I'm curious what actual facts you think contradict the evidence of Trump's guilt here. There's no doubt he plotted with Pecker, Cohen and others to quash unfavorable stories to aid the campaign, no doubt Cohen paid Daniels to do so, no doubt Trump reimbursed him for doing so and no doubts that the checks and other business records falsely recorded the payments as part of a retainer agreement that didn't exist.
Ball's in your court, Earl; how is this case such an injustice?