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@sh76 saidExactly. Those other countries don't have rabid fan clubs like the NRA, at least not nearly to the same extent. It's a typical USA problem, and the NRA is both a symptom and an aggravating factor in your unhealthy attitudes towards guns.
"Other countries with high rates of gun ownership don't have gun crime rates, especially mass shootings, anywhere near as high as in America."
From the OP.
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@earl-of-trumps saidUnfortunately, people bent on killing themselves would find some other way to do it if guns were taken away from them. Of course, if I knew a friend was despondent and suicidal, I'd make sure I locked up all his ammo, just as you wouldn't let a drunk friend drive himself home. It is easy to buy over-the-counter drugs and overdose on them, so just taking people's guns away from them isn't likely to reduce the suicide rate significantly (in America, anyway).
@moonbus says -
Interestingly, most of the gun-related deaths in Switzerland are suicides, not murders or connected with armed robberies.
I believe that is true in the US as well.
62% of U.S. gun deaths are suicides
Del. Jason Miyares, R-Virginia Beach, has offered a compromise red-flag bill that would take firearms away from people deemed danger ...[text shortened]...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/aug/21/jason-miyares/62-us-gun-deaths-are-suicides/
One law I think would be sensible, and I can't imagine what valid counter-argument the NRA would make against it, would be to require gun owners to keep their guns and ammo in locked cabinets at home. This is law in Switzerland, and it prevents children from getting at them. If a child should get access, because the cabinet was unlocked or because the gun owner left the keys where the kid could get them, and somebody gets killed, then there should be strict liability: the gun owner who didn't secure his guns goes to jail, even if he did not pull the trigger. This would have prevented some school massacres where kids were the ones who pulled the triggers, and it would prevent accidental shootings in the home.
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@shallow-blue saidThose other countries don't have the demographic problems of the US.
Exactly. Those other countries don't have rabid fan clubs like the NRA, at least not nearly to the same extent. It's a typical USA problem, and the NRA is both a symptom and an aggravating factor in your unhealthy attitudes towards guns.
It's not the NRA shooting up people in drive-by's over turf or hurt feelings..
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@shallow-blue saidOnce again, since my comment was lost on you:
True - they're not made up of 50% rabid maniac Evangelical Molech-and-Mammon-worshiping Republicans with such a small reproductive organ that they need to replace it with a gun.
It ain't Republicans blasting away at people everywhere for their pocket change or shoes or whatever.
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@moonbus saidGuns don't kill people,
... irresponsible people do. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership don't have gun crime rates, especially mass shootings, anywhere near as high as in America. Clearly, guns aren't the problem; it's Americans who are the problem.
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