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Originally posted by orfeommmm
Having a flag does not make you a country, Stang. All the Australian States and Territories have flags. Last time I looked, Tasmania wasn't independent.
what about the history of the australian states ... they were independent - that is why they generated their own flags ... then they joined forces for some purposes in 1901 in "federation" - but not completely ... there is still much separation of the states.
you look for 100% clarity in the murky waters of land ownership, you might as well hunt for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_States_and_Territories gives an overview.
having a flag - sort of makes you a country ... any further clarification than that is simply your chosen convention - probably that of youyr parents or school teachers - and will not be universally agreed upon.
Originally posted by flexmoreNo, it really, REALLY doesn't.
having a flag - sort of makes you a country ...
Countries have flags. That doesn't prevent other people from having flags. The United Nations has one, the International Olympic Committee has one. Private companies can have one. Individuals can have one (many countries have a special Presidential flag that looks nothing like the national one).
FOOTBALL TEAMS can have one.
Not only does every state/province/canton of federal nations (Australia, USA, Canada, Germany and Switzerland to name some off the top of my head) have its own flag - and probably regions of non-federal nations as well - it's perfectly possible for little local councils to make one.
Being a sovereign nation depends on recognition of that status by other nations (hence Afghanistan and Iraq qualify easily). No-one has established diplomatic relations with Buvelot Island (love that example, if I spelt it right this time), they talk to Norway. Because Norway has sovereignty over the island.
Taiwan has uncertain status because about 25 countries have recognised it, but most officially recognise only one China, the People's Republic. And there might be some others in the 'uncertain' category, but a large number of items on Stang's list are not only not recognised as independent, they have never even CLAIMED to be independent. So they wouldn't, in a million years, be celebrating an Independence Day.
This is what you get for taking on a lawyer who memorised flags as a hobby when he was young...
Originally posted by orfeohow old are you - did you memorise the tibetan flag?
No, it really, REALLY doesn't.
Countries have flags. That doesn't prevent other people from having flags. The United Nations has one, the International Olympic Committee has one. Private companies can have one. Individuals can have one (many countries have a special Presidential flag that looks nothing like the national one).
FOOTBALL TEAMS can hav ...[text shortened]...
This is what you get for taking on a lawyer who memorised flags as a hobby when he was young...
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Originally posted by flexmoreI'm 31, and I honestly can't recall the Tibetan flag being in the original encyclopaedia where I started learning flags (and capital cities, and currencies to an extent...) nor in my later flag books. I just looked it up, China invaded in 1950.
how old are you - did you memorise the tibetan flag?
I'd happily place Tibet in the uncertain category. However I notice it didn't make Stang's list. What does Bouvet Island have that Tibet doesn't?
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