@no1marauder saidWith indicated reforms, that number will decrease over time.
"8 Million People Are Working Illegally in the U.S."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/us/undocumented-immigrant-workers.html
So you don't want to deport them, but you do want to make them unemployed?
@no1marauder saidYou are exactly right..........................It IS the dream.......... of the Illegal immigrant,, or that of legal immigrants.
Good.
So they work hard and better themselves.
Why is that a problem? It used to be called "The American Dream".
Marauder, we are Americans. They dream to be like us. Well, Get in line and see if you can qualify to be like us, realize a dream.
This is your worse day for debating. "Work hard and beeeettttter yourselves". Wow, nail it!!! You see, they have to Legally Get To A Position where they can,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,work hard and better themselves. I'm sure you ar housing them 😆. When they get approved, send them to my lumber yard, or my office, where we need a translator.
@wildgrass said"Over time"? That's not what you said:
With indicated reforms, that number will decrease over time.
Wildgrass: Naturalizing current illegals sends the wrong message. They should be denied employment options.
Do that now and 8 million people are out of work.
@averagejoe1 saidThose who cross the border and apply for asylum are complying with US law.
You are exactly right..........................It IS the dream.......... of the Illegal immigrant,, or that of legal immigrants.
Marauder, we are Americans. They dream to be like us. Well, Get in line and see if you can qualify to be like us, realize a dream.
This is your worse day for debating. "Work hard and beeeettttter yourselves". Wow, nail it!!! Yo ...[text shortened]... m 😆. When they get approved, send them to my lumber yard, or my office, where we need a translator.
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@wildgrass saidIs that you, Majorkis!?!?? How do you even know that? What if we count on your saying that, but because of some unknown catastrophe, we have a depression resulting in food lines. ??? My wife and I are llined up behind people from Yemin (illegal), Mexico, (illegal) Haiti (illegal) Murdering muslims (illegal), Chinee, (illegal)
With indicated reforms, that number will decrease over time.
Y'all makde me tired. I will win one of you over by November.
(Golly AvJoe has a point about a depression with millioins of illegals to compete with!!)
@no1marauder saidYou wrote "now" not me. I'd guess if the policy makers ever got serious then the enforcement would need to be phased in somehow, as otherwise the strawberries don't get picked at all. Illegals are replaced with documented immigrants arriving through proper channels. The policy change would simultaneously decrease the rate of illegal entries (over time) and increase self-deportation of illegals who can't find jobs.
"Over time"? That's not what you said:
Wildgrass: Naturalizing current illegals sends the wrong message. They should be denied employment options.
Do that now and 8 million people are out of work.
I don't understand how industries like farming (a heavily conservative-leaning group) have gotten away with hiring illegals at such a high rate as they do.
@no1marauder saidYou casually leave out that there is NO SET LIMIT on how many. Marauder,........first, is that you Marauder? You used to be a bit more rationale and I am being generous. You are way out of bounds.
Those who cross the border and apply for asylum are complying with US law.
How many Marauder? New citizens each year (which must be vetted, which aint happenin now, and you, as a marxist, are lovin that). Come one, come all, we need your votes and your obedience. We will feed you!!
@wildgrass saidWhy all the conversation? Get in a room and decide how many we need. Like how many horses you need to pull a wagon. 8 Clydesdales. If someone brings 12, 4 of them are sent back.
You wrote "now" not me. I'd guess if the policy makers ever got serious then the enforcement would need to be phased in somehow, as otherwise the strawberries don't get picked at all. Illegals are replaced with documented immigrants arriving through proper channels. The policy change would simultaneously decrease the rate of illegal entries (over time) and increase self-dep ...[text shortened]... ly conservative-leaning group) have gotten away with hiring illegals at such a high rate as they do.
Leave the room, and put the plan in motion. Go play golf or fishing.
@averagejoe1 saidLol. You're better off Asking your Congressman. I'm just a schlub.
Why all the conversation? Get in a room and decide how many we need. Like how many horses you need to pull a wagon. 8 Clydesdales. If someone brings 12, 4 of them are sent back.
Leave the room, and put the plan in motion. Go play golf or fishing.
And don't vote for Trump or any republican. They've already proven incapable of solving problems.
Did you see them at the border? Whining and complaining while they could be fixing.
@wildgrass saidif it weren’t for lying you couldn’t say shyt!
- border at a breaking point with record numbers of families crossing illegally.
- migrants caravan over 7000 headed for the US.
- 70,000 a month estimated crossings...
The date ??? 2018.
Did the MAGA cult blame trump? No. Because Republicans are not interested in solutions.
Even now, they think it's an imminent crisis and blame Xiden. But they sent everyone ...[text shortened]... ay? Why did Republicans send everyone home on vacation for 3 weeks?
I'm working. Why aren't they?
https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2018/11/27/u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-total-dips-to-lowest-level-in-a-decade/
@mott-the-hoople saidYou've posted this before..it's 2016 numbers from before trump's invasion. The numbers increased while trump was in office.
if it weren’t for lying you couldn’t say shyt!
https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2018/11/27/u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-total-dips-to-lowest-level-in-a-decade/
@wildgrass said“Observers attribute that steep decline to economic growth in Mexico, ramped-up border enforcement, and the “Trump effect”, which deterred some migrants.”
You've posted this before..it's 2016 numbers from before trump's invasion. The numbers increased while trump was in office.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/25/us-illegal-border-crossings-analysis-trump-migrants
I guess you think we are supposed to forget what we witnessed with our own eyes 😂
@wildgrass saidI agree they all suck. Maybe we can get marauder to nationalize everything, throw everything into a pot and split it up, and everyone be happy in Nirvana.
Lol. You're better off Asking your Congressman. I'm just a schlub.
And don't vote for Trump or any republican. They've already proven incapable of solving problems.
Did you see them at the border? Whining and complaining while they could be fixing.
As an example, everyone in the country would own the exact amount of shares of every corporation in the country. Of course, competition would be eliminated, but isn’t that his goal?
@wildgrass saidTrump?
Lol. You're better off Asking your Congressman. I'm just a schlub.
And don't vote for Trump or any republican. They've already proven incapable of solving problems.
Did you see them at the border? Whining and complaining while they could be fixing.